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2024-07-14 Fifth Column
Round-up: Pennsylvania Trump rally shooting
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Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11148 views ]  Top
 File under: Antifa/BLM 

#1 guessing that the shooter was working with one or two spotters who were in the crowd
Posted by Lord Garth 2024-07-14 00:02||   2024-07-14 00:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Moment Secret Service snipers shoot gunman who shot Donald Trump
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 00:25||   2024-07-14 00:25|| Front Page Top

#3 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 00:31||   2024-07-14 00:31|| Front Page Top

#4 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 00:32||   2024-07-14 00:32|| Front Page Top

#5 A bit of gallows humor from the Russians:

From a V Kontakte post:

Recall that an attempt was made to kill Trump yesterday at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. The shooter was killed. Trump has undergone a medical examination, everything is fine with himorder. At least one rally participant was killed and two were wounded as a result of the shooting.

This morning, the White House reported that Biden had spoken with Trump after the assassination attempt. No details were given, but he probably assured Trumo that he was not the shooter!



Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 00:43||   2024-07-14 00:43|| Front Page Top

#6 FBI said to identify suspected shooter at Trump rally as 20-year-old Pennsylvania man
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-07-14 00:51||   2024-07-14 00:51|| Front Page Top

#7 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 00:54||   2024-07-14 00:54|| Front Page Top

#8 You do realize that it's not the last attempt?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-07-14 01:13||   2024-07-14 01:13|| Front Page Top

#9 
Posted by Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857 2024-07-14 01:17||   2024-07-14 01:17|| Front Page Top

#10 Quote from a commenter on Instapundit.com a short time ago: "You don't need a collection of foil hats to wonder why all rooftops within easy rifle range were not secured."
Posted by Elmaper+McGurque1612 2024-07-14 01:51||   2024-07-14 01:51|| Front Page Top

#11 #9 - note the water tower in the small photo which overlooks both the gunman's POV and where Trump was speaking.
Posted by Elmaper+McGurque1612 2024-07-14 03:21||   2024-07-14 03:21|| Front Page Top

#12 Suspect in Trump shooting is a member of Republican Party, report
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-07-14 03:29||   2024-07-14 03:29|| Front Page Top

#13 A third name has just popped up on CTH- Maxwell Yearick. The fog is thick on this one.
Posted by Ululating Platypus  2024-07-14 03:44||   2024-07-14 03:44|| Front Page Top

#14 I've been playing with Google Earth to produce a map of the events. Here are the coordinates for Trump, the gunman, and the counter sniper team.
Approximate location of Donald Trump when he was shot
N 40.856943°
W 79.970780°

Approximate location of gunman on rooftop
N 40.858276°
W 79.970601°

Approximate location of counter snipers
N 40.857058°
W 79.970363°

Distance between Trump & gunman 148.8 m
Posted by Elmaper+McGurque1612 2024-07-14 03:46||   2024-07-14 03:46|| Front Page Top

#15 The worthless FBI is leading the investigation....how much you wanna bet this guy will turn out to be 'known' to the FBI and was led down the same path as that kidnapping plot crew. Sure they can claim he's a republican but I don't believe it. Republican doesn't mean anything anymore anyway.

I'm 53 years old and never in my life have I felt this nation so close to something so profoundly ugly and bloody. I'm just glad if we have to do this again, my son isn't old enough.

This will not end well and I'm certain it's NOT over.

With the FBI able to spin it, they'll paint this guy as right wing, no matter what and then one of their patsy's will take out Biden to 'remove' the problem. I've said it twice on here the past few weeks.
Posted by Silentbrick 2024-07-14 03:57||   2024-07-14 03:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Given, the New FBI, under O'Biden DOJ control, is said to be taking the lead in the investigation.

So should we expect to see "everyone" involved arrested? Or, just those that know too much arrested, and kill themselves in jail?.
Posted by NN2N1 2024-07-14 05:32||   2024-07-14 05:32|| Front Page Top

#17 According to .RU news sources

A 20-year-old Pennsylvania resident, Thomas Matthew Crookes.

Before the attack, he recorded a video, said he hated Republicans and Trump.

QUESTION
So will we wait 6+ months to see the video or a retracted manifesto, like the LSD's have done with other incidents that conflict with their agenda?
Posted by NN2N1 2024-07-14 06:29||   2024-07-14 06:29|| Front Page Top

#18 Curiosity - wouldn’t you anticipate a minimum of two drones to provide overwatch in an outdoor crowd situation? No drones means relying on the Mark 1 eyeball
Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-07-14 07:53||   2024-07-14 07:53|| Front Page Top

#19 Antifa are Soros brownshirts
Sorry for America - the global cabal are trying to set you against each other
This will win the election for Trump and end his legal woes, but he is not the best candidate. RFK is the one who can pull the globalitarians out by the roots

Is this now concluded that Trump wins election? Everyone will rally to him
Posted by Anon1 2024-07-14 08:08||   2024-07-14 08:08|| Front Page Top

#20 I would have thought the FBI would have had a sniper on the roof in question. I also suspect the local police that ignored warnings about a sniper on that rooftop probably suspected it was an FBI sniper that was being reported which is why they didn't take it seriously.
Posted by ruprecht 2024-07-14 08:24||   2024-07-14 08:24|| Front Page Top

#21 no second chances
Posted by Mercutio 2024-07-14 08:28||   2024-07-14 08:28|| Front Page Top

#22 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 08:49||   2024-07-14 08:49|| Front Page Top

#23 You know what will be the topic of conversation among the congregation of every church in the country this morning
Posted by Griter+Slash1619 2024-07-14 08:53||   2024-07-14 08:53|| Front Page Top

#24 wonder why all rooftops within easy rifle range

Nobody learned from the 'grassy knoll'

Be interesting to learn the counter-sniper ROE.
Reports suggest the shooter was already framed before he fired.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 08:59||   2024-07-14 08:59|| Front Page Top

#25 no second chance #2
Posted by Mercutio 2024-07-14 09:04||   2024-07-14 09:04|| Front Page Top

#26 Two interesting takeaways from the dozens of articles this morning:

1) at least one pic of Crooks (as a teenager) hints at Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. (Provenence of pic is not confirmed as he has black hair in the pic and another shows him with natural-appearing blond hair.)
2) At least several witnesses claimed there were two volleys and they didn't come from the same direction. Can you spell Grassy Knoll?
Posted by Mercutio 2024-07-14 09:22||   2024-07-14 09:22|| Front Page Top

#27 

"The incredible image was snapped by New York Times photographer, Doug Mills, who recalled it being 'a very standard, typical rally' before the drama unfolded."
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 09:38||   2024-07-14 09:38|| Front Page Top

#28 counter-sniper ROE

Moment Secret Service snipers shoot gunman who shot Donald Trump
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 09:44||   2024-07-14 09:44|| Front Page Top

#29 Test because my actual comment won't post
Posted by Silentbrick 2024-07-14 10:00||   2024-07-14 10:00|| Front Page Top

#30 rooftop

Video shows Trump rally shooter on rooftop

DISCLAIMER:
May or may not be the shooter.
Bullet trace may or may not have been added after crowd background was removed.

My faith in media truth of video renditions is weak.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 10:09||   2024-07-14 10:09|| Front Page Top

#31 Odd, the one comment will not post, no bad language, no threats just some predictions.
Posted by Silentbrick 2024-07-14 10:16||   2024-07-14 10:16|| Front Page Top

#32 [BB]Witness Tells BBC He Saw Armed Man Climb Roof Near Trump Rally

X-video

Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 10:34||   2024-07-14 10:34|| Front Page Top

#33 This stinks.

Why was the nearest overlook with LOS to Trump not kept under constant overwatch. And if counter-snipers did have eyes on, why did they let him shoot at Trump before - at last - shooting the would be assassin.

This stinks.
Posted by Difar Dave 2024-07-14 11:41||   2024-07-14 11:41|| Front Page Top

#34 Nice that the SS sniper let the assassin shoot first. is that protocol?
Posted by Regular+joe 2024-07-14 12:08||   2024-07-14 12:08|| Front Page Top

#35 Wait till he asks for a purple heart.
Posted by Penguin_of_the_Desert  2024-07-14 12:11||   2024-07-14 12:11|| Front Page Top

#36 Bongino is former SS:

Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 13:02||   2024-07-14 13:02|| Front Page Top

#37 Dear Secret Service: There is a new thingie called camera-equipped drones. You may want to look into picking up a couple of them. I'm certain they can easily be equipped miniaturized IFF transponders. If you have a problem obtaining said transponders, maybe Hunter could give you a hand.
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2024-07-14 13:05||   2024-07-14 13:05|| Front Page Top

#38 From: Silentbrick

Everything I try to post a certain comment it doesn't appear
I predict:

The shooter was known to agents via a cutout confidential informant, who the FBI will refuse to name and refuse to say what his task was.

The secret service will either have no answer or will refuse to answer why that roof was not manned.

Both agencies will refuse to answer or provide congress with any documents about the findings of the investigation. They will also be covered by DC judges about being forced to handover the reports. They will claim operational security.


1-2 Whistleblowers will come forward with damning allegations but then commit suicide after 'suddenly' being found to possess child s*ex abuse material.

Someone in the white house,fbi or ss will be caught on mic bragging about how the cover up of the deep state failed hit went perfectly.
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 13:09||   2024-07-14 13:09|| Front Page Top

#39 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 13:17||   2024-07-14 13:17|| Front Page Top

#40 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 13:26||   2024-07-14 13:26|| Front Page Top

#41 #33 rumors of denial of request by SS sniper team to engage shooter prior to shooter opening fire
Posted by Rex Mundi 2024-07-14 13:49||   2024-07-14 13:49|| Front Page Top

#42 The ladder is a hugely important piece of the story. Given the relatively short distance from the rooftop to the podium, the security threat assessment by the USSS had to consider the rooftop as a primary threat location. Given it was outside the event perimeter, and that the detail was apparently lacking sufficient USSS personnel, it is reasonable to presme the site was screened and checked in the final sweep prior to the start of the event. It is likely local/state LEOs were in the security zone and conducted the final sweep which would have reported the rooftop clear. But was the ladder visible or in the periphery of the building? If so, it should have been impounded or removed. If not, then the shooter would have had to bring it with him, an obvious signature for the security zone LEOs to note and investigate. If it was there, forensics might determine why and who was involved in its placement. Either way, it is a critical component in determining if this was merely incompetence or a more complex conspiracy.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-14 14:01||   2024-07-14 14:01|| Front Page Top

#43 Powerline:
Reportedly, Crooks was not carrying identification and was identified through DNA. I don’t understand that. How was the FBI or Secret Service able to identify Crooks through his DNA, almost immediately? Crooks apparently didn’t have a criminal record, so why would his DNA be somehow on file with law enforcement? Obviously there is an answer, but I don’t know what it is
Posted by Frank G 2024-07-14 14:05||   2024-07-14 14:05|| Front Page Top

#44 I read that they used the Ancestry DNA site and worked it back from familial matching!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-14 14:10||   2024-07-14 14:10|| Front Page Top

#45 Melania Trump is a classy, classy lady:

Posted by trailing wife 2024-07-14 14:33||   2024-07-14 14:33|| Front Page Top

#46 Breakdown by Task & Purpose
Posted by DarthVader 2024-07-14 15:09||   2024-07-14 15:09|| Front Page Top

#47 Do we know whether Crooks had a scope on his gun. If he didn't it would reasonable that he missed.

If he had a scope and wasn't hurrying his shot, he would be expected to hit his target at the 150 yd distance.
Posted by Lord Garth 2024-07-14 15:09||   2024-07-14 15:09|| Front Page Top

#48 1) If this guy was registered as a Republican it was to vote the in Republican primary to screw it up. Common tactic for these Communist Democrats.

2) The guy was a bad shot. Even iron sites at 150 yards from prone position is relatively easy shot.

3)Yes, Melania is the classiest!!
Posted by Ulalet Brown4953 2024-07-14 15:59||   2024-07-14 15:59|| Front Page Top

#49 The guy was a bad shot. Even iron sites at 150 yards from prone position is relatively easy shot. I presume "sites" are "sights".

I discussed the subject with Grom Jr. What I told him was "Now you understand why instructors in basic taught you to aim for the body, not the head?"
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-07-14 16:05||   2024-07-14 16:05|| Front Page Top

#50 

How many outlets will run this picture? It had to be the picture of the day. See the courage? The defiance? The sense of purpose? It looks historical, iconic. Kinda reminds me of Washington crossing the Delaware. He is a better man than any of the people who sent his would-be assassin(s).
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-07-14 16:15||   2024-07-14 16:15|| Front Page Top

#51 Now being reported that a local cop climbed the ladder and encountered the shooter, who then pointed his weapon at the cop who went back down. Moments later the shooter started firing. Unclear if the local LEO made immediate report that alerted the USSS Counter-Sniper Team to the rooftop and helped them quickly ID and neytalized the shooter. More to follow I suspect from the USSS at 130 PST.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/local-cop-confronted-sniper-thomas-matthew-crooks-before-he-shot-former-president-trump-report/
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-14 16:17||   2024-07-14 16:17|| Front Page Top

#52 More are reporting this obvious fact:

Pennsylvania is a closed primary state

The shooter donated to ActBlue (Biden) then registered as a Republican so he could vote against Trump (Probably one of Nikki's few votes)

Claims to hate Trump and all Republicans
Posted by Ulalet Brown4953 2024-07-14 16:20||   2024-07-14 16:20|| Front Page Top

#53 Re #49 - LOL - Yes iron "sights". Although he was also aided by an iron site at his metal rooftop position. So ill give you 50%

Btw, if frequently use nite for night, etc. and English professor I know says it's okay!!
Posted by Ulalet Brown4953 2024-07-14 16:26||   2024-07-14 16:26|| Front Page Top

#54 A local police officer climbed the roof where the shooter was perched. Crooks then pointed his weapon at the officer, who retreated back down the ladder. The shooter quickly took a series of rushed shots at Trump. This interaction might explain why Trump is alive today.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-07-14 16:27||   2024-07-14 16:27|| Front Page Top

#55 
Corey Comperatore was shielding his daughter when killed by the assassin's bullet.
Posted by Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857 2024-07-14 16:27||   2024-07-14 16:27|| Front Page Top

#56 Yesterday time stopped"

“My sister and I never needed for anything. You call, he would answer, and he would do whatever it is you needed, and if he didn’t know how he would figure out how,” she said.

“He could talk and make friends with anyone, which he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it. He was a man of God, loved Jesus fiercely, and also looked after our church and our members as family,” she said, adding that the media “will not tell you that he died a real-life super hero."

“They are not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mom and I to the ground. They are not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us,” she wrote. “He loved his family. He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us.”

“And I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him thank you. I want nothing more than to wake up and for this to not be reality for me and my family,” she said, describing her dad as “selfless” and “loving.”

“And I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that I die too,” she said, expressing deep love of her father.

Allyson Comperatore, the daughter of the man killed
Posted by Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857 2024-07-14 17:10||   2024-07-14 17:10|| Front Page Top

#57 ^Jesus! That brought a tear to my eye.
Posted by Secret Master 2024-07-14 17:22||   2024-07-14 17:22|| Front Page Top

#58 Liberals have full-blown meltdown after shooter misses Donald Trump at rally: 'We were a centimeter...
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-14 17:34||   2024-07-14 17:34|| Front Page Top

#59 How soon will the shooter's manifesto be released? Name of his male partner? Date and texts of break-up. Nursing home where he worked co-worker statement? Toxic reports ?
Posted by Besoeker 2024-07-14 17:37||   2024-07-14 17:37|| Front Page Top

#60  frequently use nite for night, etc. and English professor I know says it's okay!!

For quick, informal communication like short tweets, texts, and comments on websites, Ulalet Brown4953. For anything more formal, absolutely not.

And to be fair, those of us who absolutely cannot do that will work very hard to not be judgey about it when you do, my dear, but it will still hurt our souls to see it. Sorry.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-07-14 17:58||   2024-07-14 17:58|| Front Page Top

#61  Thomas Matthew Crooks Post SS Sniper kablamski. .

NOTE: Some viewers may be offended, etc.
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2024-07-14 18:04||   2024-07-14 18:04|| Front Page Top

#62 Yes ma’am.
Posted by Ulalet Brown4953 2024-07-14 18:05||   2024-07-14 18:05|| Front Page Top

#63 Garth, you don’t need spotters for a 150 yard shot at a known position (podium.)
Posted by Glenmore 2024-07-14 18:14||   2024-07-14 18:14|| Front Page Top

#64 but you may need them to let you know the coast is clear to climb a ladder to a flat roof
Posted by Lord Garth 2024-07-14 18:25||   2024-07-14 18:25|| Front Page Top

#65 
Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
🚨New info from a source in the Secret Service community — Trump’s usual protective Secret Service detail was worked so hard (working 7 days a week with no days off) that many of agents assigned Saturday were temporary replacements from different field offices.

This is not the usual protocol for sitting presidents and vice presidents but “typical” for former presidents, (although no former presidents have run again in modern history.)

“Trump has a permanent detail, however it’s much smaller in the amount of bodies,” the source said. “His detail has been worked so hard with all the travel that they’re working 7 days a week with shift changes. so HQ sends in temp agents to supplement - not a good scenario. Mission Failure, IMHO.”

https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812550621100421127?
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-14 19:24||   2024-07-14 19:24|| Front Page Top

#66 
Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
The "glaring Secret Service mistake" was a problem assessing the line of sight + there should be an internal Secret Service paper trail on how many counter-snipers, other officers and agents were allotted to this event in Pennsylvnia, one source in the Secret Service community tells me.

Before the event, a Secret Service advance team walks the potectee's (in this case, Trump's) route (ingress/egrees) and the site then stands on the stage and looks out 360 degrees to determine vulnerabilities, keeping in mind effective lethal handgun and rifle ranges and making sure those areas are posted and covered. In this case, they missed the rooftop 130 to 150 yards away. Even for a mediocre shooter, that's not a difficult shot. Many competitive shooters compete out to 1,000 yards.

"How many counter sniper teams were there? On the presidential protective detail [agents] use as many as we needed if we could justify it. Former presidents and other details are lucky if they get one, and luckier if they get more than one."

When Secret Service agents do advance work for a rally or other event they submit a manpower request through the lead advance agent. The lead advance agent submits the number of post standers, magnetometers, counter snipers, etc, that would be needed for a particular visit.

A Secret Service official back in D.C. in manpower/protective operations then comes back and says, "You're only getting this."

"We would always be sure our requests were in writing so we would have a paper trail just in case of the present scenario we have in Butler," the source tells me.https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812517121538314544
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-14 19:54||   2024-07-14 19:54|| Front Page Top

#67 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 20:05||   2024-07-14 20:05|| Front Page Top

#68 
Posted by badanov 2024-07-14 20:08||   2024-07-14 20:08|| Front Page Top

#69 
Posted by Jack+Creanter7508 2024-07-14 20:33||   2024-07-14 20:33|| Front Page Top

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