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2024-04-14 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Iran attacks: the aftermath‐ three of today's Israeli liveblogs

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Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-14 02:07|| || Front Page|| [11137 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Iran

#1 IDF jets strike in the Beqaa Valley deep in Lebanon

It's unhealthy to be Iranian proxy.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 04:11|| 2024-04-14 04:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Biden: US won't participate in, support offensive operations against Iran

Posted by Skidmark 2024-04-14 04:36|| 2024-04-14 04:36|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Lets wait until they actually score?

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 04:38|| 2024-04-14 04:38|| Front Page Top

#4 US will not hesitate to protect its forces and support Israel, Pentagon says

Posted by Skidmark 2024-04-14 04:39|| 2024-04-14 04:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Israel Iran War News Live Updates: 'Response will be much larger if ... ,' Iran warns Israel against retaliation

Posted by Skidmark 2024-04-14 05:19|| 2024-04-14 05:19|| Front Page Top

#6 So … four waves of 100 Shaheed drones each to identify and deplete the ADA assets. Then 30 cruise missiles and 8 hypersonic timed to arrive with the last wave of (jet powered drones). That suggests at least 438 interceptor rockets used expended to interdict the attack (ballpark 1.2 billion dollars?). How many times can Israel endure such strikes (with the aid of US, UK, Jordan and Egypt helping shoot down incoming) before the cupboard is bare. And now there is even more intense competition between Ukraine and Israel to obtain the limited number of ADA missiles in the pipeline.

Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-04-14 07:29|| 2024-04-14 07:29|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ Exactly why Bidet's "take the win" advice is crap.

Punch back harder. Make sure there's no "next time."

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 07:31|| 2024-04-14 07:31|| Front Page Top

#8 #6 The staggering cost of Israel's defense against Iran's missile attack: '4-5 billion shekels per night'

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 07:36|| 2024-04-14 07:36|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ It will always be cheaper to lay down and die.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 07:39|| 2024-04-14 07:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Where does "Never Again" play in this situation?

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 07:40|| 2024-04-14 07:40|| Front Page Top

#11 As I recall, the exchange rate is about 4 New Israeli Shekels to the dollar. Well ballparked, Gloluns Turkeyneck4904.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-14 07:41|| 2024-04-14 07:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Inside Iran's frightening £800m war chest after country launches drone attack on Israel

Posted by Skidmark 2024-04-14 07:56|| 2024-04-14 07:56|| Front Page Top

#13 400 some millions in defense against cheap drones
over this period of activity. Restocking a difficult costly effort but also production time to replace a concern. Media presentations remind me of the Ukraine media. The truth will become available eventually. Video conformations I would rather wait for.

Posted by Dale 2024-04-14 08:30|| 2024-04-14 08:30|| Front Page Top

#14 Ynet Breaking News link

Posted by SteveS 2024-04-14 08:33|| 2024-04-14 08:33|| Front Page Top

#15 Yes, just letting the attack succeed would have saved so much money.

What's a few dead Hebrews, more or less, eh?

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 08:35|| 2024-04-14 08:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Interestingly Iran appears to have only used its light ballistic missiles (Rezvan, Haj Qasem and possibly Haybar-Shekan) but none of the heavier Ghadrs, Emad, Fattah-1/2, Sejil-2, Dezful, Qiam-2 or Khorramshahr-2 missiles.

Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-04-14 08:41|| 2024-04-14 08:41|| Front Page Top

#17 four waves of 100 Shaheed drones... 30 cruise missiles... 8 hypersonic...
That suggests at least 438 interceptor rockets used expended to interdict the attack

Just thinking out loud, I would expect that some of the drones would be vulnerable to anti-aircraft cannon fire. Not disputing G-T's back of the envelope calculations.

In the current Rus vs Ukr situation, electronic warfare has played a role in drone defense. No idea of Israeli capabilities, but I suspect they have been paying attention.

Posted by SteveS 2024-04-14 08:52|| 2024-04-14 08:52|| Front Page Top

#18 Self defense is too expensive. Just lie back and enjoy it.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 08:56|| 2024-04-14 08:56|| Front Page Top

#19 ^Or get Globalists on your side - what Air Defences Iran or it's proxies have?

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 09:23|| 2024-04-14 09:23|| Front Page Top

#20 The big mistake was made right after 9/11. Should have given the taliban 48 hours to produce bin laden. Then no more living people inside the borders of Afghanistan.

Whether they complied or not.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 09:27|| 2024-04-14 09:27|| Front Page Top

#21 /\ Yes Merc, definitely a missed opportunity. The missed opportunity then becomes a regional political football and excuse for ground intervention.

Kabuki dance graphic here please.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-14 09:37|| 2024-04-14 09:37|| Front Page Top

#22 Tonight we find out if it was a full scale attack or just testing the defenses.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 09:44|| 2024-04-14 09:44|| Front Page Top

#23 You make an example or you are the example.

Binary choice. I get all the "non binaries" are confused.

That's why they shouldn't have a say.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 09:47|| 2024-04-14 09:47|| Front Page Top

#24

Operation Opera-II please. You were right in 1981, you'll be right in 2024 as well.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-14 09:49|| 2024-04-14 09:49|| Front Page Top

#25 I think the Iranians will wait for Israel to counter strike before a second wave. That’ll provide an opportunity to see how well their ADA performs against Israeli equipment. Especially since the Iranian UN ambassador called “no tag backs.”

Posted by Griter+Slash1619 2024-04-14 09:50|| 2024-04-14 09:50|| Front Page Top

#26 Unfinished business from the Carter years (and before). Smite the SOB's and be done with it.

How did all of this come about? Thanks for asking. It's called 'Regime Change' and it happened ..... "February 1979, the monarchy was officially brought down and Khomeini assumed leadership over Iran while guerrillas and rebel troops overwhelmed Pahlavi loyalists in armed combat."

Guess who was behind it.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-14 09:51|| 2024-04-14 09:51|| Front Page Top

#27 iran is a very arid country. If a demonstration must be made, a couple TLAM-Ns in an unpopulated area and a request for diplomats to discuss where they would like the next dozen to land.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 09:52|| 2024-04-14 09:52|| Front Page Top

#28 Be a damn shame if one of Iran's missiles made it through and hit the Temple Mount

Posted by Frank G 2024-04-14 09:56|| 2024-04-14 09:56|| Front Page Top

#29 /\ That should have been...pre-arranged. Perhaps next time.

Bulldozer graphic here please.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-14 09:57|| 2024-04-14 09:57|| Front Page Top

#30 I was thinking the same thing. Imagine how the "it will cost Israel too much to shoot them all down" crowd will screech if suddenly all attacks on Israel land in one specific place.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 10:14|| 2024-04-14 10:14|| Front Page Top

#31 Thanks to the billions Barry Soetoro and Creepy Joe Biden gave Iran.

Posted by Deacon+Blues 2024-04-14 10:29|| 2024-04-14 10:29|| Front Page Top

#32 @#26 "Guess who was behind it."

I'll take a stab at it: The US and the UK in 1953 in the overthrow of Mossadegh?

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 10:34|| 2024-04-14 10:34|| Front Page Top

#33 Mossadegh ... In the early cold war a much deeper situation than Iran ever admits to .. and all context denied...

Posted by 3dc 2024-04-14 11:06|| 2024-04-14 11:06|| Front Page Top

#34 ^ Never mind the current iranian regime would have hanged Mossadegh when they took over.

It's still a grievance to them.

Phony hypocrite azzholes.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 11:50|| 2024-04-14 11:50|| Front Page Top

#35 Phoney balonies lol

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 11:56|| 2024-04-14 11:56|| Front Page Top

#36 Guess who was behind it.

Bush II was told: by both Islaeli PM and Saudi king "Find a nice (meaning one who'd remember what happened to his predecessor) Sunni general to replace Saddam. " But no, he had to play an Nation Building - turning Iran's only natural enemy into Iranian client.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-14 12:00|| 2024-04-14 12:00|| Front Page Top

#37 Boosh era pubs never passed up a chance to f*ck up...

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 12:08|| 2024-04-14 12:08|| Front Page Top

#38 Much like Biden-Obama era dums now.

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 12:11|| 2024-04-14 12:11|| Front Page Top

#39 The Iranian response seemed scripted for all parties to save face. Now Bibi has decided not to retaliate. It was all too easy.

Posted by Xyz 2024-04-14 12:20|| 2024-04-14 12:20|| Front Page Top

#40 Nice Graphic here

Posted by 3dc 2024-04-14 12:26|| 2024-04-14 12:26|| Front Page Top

#41 Scripted like the Iranian "response" after Trump took at the Iranian general, Solemani or whatever his name was.

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 12:31|| 2024-04-14 12:31|| Front Page Top

#42 Did I miss something or did some/many/all of these Iranian drones fly over Iraq where the US has a few bases to shoot those thangs down long before they could reach ISR?

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 12:36|| 2024-04-14 12:36|| Front Page Top

#43 ^ Well. There was lots of ELINT to pick up. And you can bet Lockheed and Raytheon guys were whispering "Not yet, we can still get em" in the war rooms.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 12:40|| 2024-04-14 12:40|| Front Page Top

#44 Well, the stock market should scream higher tomorrow. They've all checked the block for the weekend.

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 12:45|| 2024-04-14 12:45|| Front Page Top

#45 RedState is reporting Biden “Green Lighted” the Iranian attack. Certain limits were placed on what weapon systems could be used.
99-100% shoot down rate is too hard to believe unless there was prior knowledge of attack info.

Posted by Xyz 2024-04-14 12:57|| 2024-04-14 12:57|| Front Page Top

#46 ^ Don't agree. Foreknowledge is useless. You can knock that stuff down when you detect it or you cant.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 13:04|| 2024-04-14 13:04|| Front Page Top

#47 People who believe what they read at Red State or CONservative Pee House should just take the pipe.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 13:10|| 2024-04-14 13:10|| Front Page Top

#48 "nterestingly Iran appears to have only used its light ballistic missiles (Rezvan, Haj Qasem and possibly Haybar-Shekan) but none of the heavier Ghadrs, Emad, Fattah-1/2, Sejil-2, Dezful, Qiam-2 or Khorramshahr-2 missiles."
Gloluns Turkeyneck4904

Someone seems well informed on OB and BDA.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-04-14 13:36|| 2024-04-14 13:36|| Front Page Top

#49 /\ My thoughts as well Nomo. Almost as if clipped from classified reporting.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-14 13:40|| 2024-04-14 13:40|| Front Page Top

#50 In addition to intel gathered during the recon by fire conducted overnight, prior to the attack the Iranians seized the MSC Aries carrying 1300 TEUs value exceeding $50M from Saudi Basic Industries Corporation, Exxon Mobil, and Dow Chemical.
Algeria (237 TEUs and $10M worth of goods)
Belgium (409 TEUs - $15M worth)
Egypt (211 TEUs - $12M worth)
Greece (319 TEUs - $10M worth)
India (255 TEUs - $10.6M worth)
Italy (238 TEUs - $14M worth)
Turkey (514 TEUs worth $22M)
It should be noted that Israel was a minimal country named as the destination for these goods, with only 21 TEUs identified onboard, worth approximately $3M.

Iran will probably extort $ X from the owners for safe return of the ship and cargo to cover a potion of the cost of ordnance expended during the drone/missile attack...

Mighty fine mafia tactics to go along with the heavy hand, "that's a fine trade route you have there, it would be terrible if anything happened to it..."

Posted by Tennessee 2024-04-14 15:46|| 2024-04-14 15:46|| Front Page Top

#51 Remember all the screeching about the US couldn't field conventional strike ballistic missiles because the Russians would assume any US ballistic missile launch was a nuclear first strike?

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 16:27|| 2024-04-14 16:27|| Front Page Top

#52 My daughter dates a second generation Jew and my son a first generation Persian. I was at the ATL Persian festival in Piedmont park last weekend.

Dinners are gonna be fun

Posted by Beavis 2024-04-14 17:03|| 2024-04-14 17:03|| Front Page Top

#53 Gee. Imagine if people realized they are who they are right now, not a shadow of someone they never met.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 17:14|| 2024-04-14 17:14|| Front Page Top

#54 I hear you MM

My peach ghost peppers are looking good this year

Posted by Beavis 2024-04-14 19:03|| 2024-04-14 19:03|| Front Page Top

#55 I eat the hottest stuff I can get. Real heat, not mush with capsaicin oil.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 19:07|| 2024-04-14 19:07|| Front Page Top

#56 I have 2 Trinidad’s I over wintered that are borderline miserable

Did you watch this? Campy but fun

Posted by Beavis 2024-04-14 19:11|| 2024-04-14 19:11|| Front Page Top

#57 My favorite was the guy on Heat Seekers saying between gasps "My advice, don't get any on your lips."

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-14 19:14|| 2024-04-14 19:14|| Front Page Top

#58 I had to scroll up to figure where this went to peppers....

Posted by Frank G 2024-04-14 19:25|| 2024-04-14 19:25|| Front Page Top

#59 ^ It becomes more interesting than discussing 12 tribes, 12 apostles and 12 Imams

Posted by Beavis 2024-04-14 19:34|| 2024-04-14 19:34|| Front Page Top

#60 @#44 - Stock futures are already up, lol.

Posted by DooDahMan 2024-04-14 20:04|| 2024-04-14 20:04|| Front Page Top

#61 Almost as if clipped from classified reporting.

A timely reminder that Rantburg is entirely open source information. So please do not share here things that little civilian housewives like me ought not to mention at my next dinner party — I can’t always remember what I ought not say.

My thanks in advance!

Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-14 23:36|| 2024-04-14 23:36|| Front Page Top

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