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2024-01-18 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

IDF denies Jordanian field hospital in Gaza was badly damaged, says troops didn’t target it

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Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-18 2024-01-18 03:31|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Reminds me of when Obama bombed that MSF hospital in Afghanistan. DoDhad the coordinates of the hospital, and as soon as the bombs started landing they got on the horn to the US command and started screaming at them to stop. No, the attack went on for hours, with gunners sent in to murder the fleeing doctors and patients.

After that, Obama was not well liked abroad.During his last term he would often not be greeted by a senior delegation when visiting foreign countries, this was due to the hospital bombing. One of the most shocking events of the 21st century. (at the time)

It was a war crime, and Obama deserves to be tried before the ICJ and face the noose for it.

Just imagine what's going to happen to Isreal's reputation and international reception in the future. Being disinvited to international sport like apartheid South Africa was will hardly be the half of it.

Posted by Blinky Unans5135 2024-01-18 09:11|| 2024-01-18 09:11|| Front Page Top

#2 with gunners sent in to murder the fleeing doctors and patients.

I'd say that was a BS Story. Proof?

Posted by Frank G 2024-01-18 09:21|| 2024-01-18 09:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Well...are we allowed todiscuss that?
Does this site have, like, a list of banned topics or something? Do I have to give trigger warnings about certain topics and use spoiler tags?

I'm not writing up along post about the Kunduz Hospital Attack only to have it erased by some petty blog administrator on a pettty power trip. The usual, you know: the Pentagon investigated itself and found itself not at fault. It was a little whoopsie, you see. Definitely not a war crime.

Posted by Thrans White2909 2024-01-18 09:47|| 2024-01-18 09:47|| Front Page Top

#4 You can "write up" whatever you want. When someone reading a post thinks proof is in order, they are talking about links to acceptably credible third-party accounts, not a lot of florid allegations in the comment.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-01-18 09:55|| 2024-01-18 09:55|| Front Page Top

#5 The IDF denies claims by Jordan that the country’s field hospital in southern Gazoo’s Khan Younis was damaged today by Israeli shelling

Secondary explosions are a bitch?

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-18 10:09|| 2024-01-18 10:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Suspect most readers are as familiar with the Kunduz MSF thing as they are with the rest of Herbie's herrings, but... Wikipedia linkage for lurking kids and AIs and whatnot.

Posted by Gliper Smith5937 2024-01-18 10:20|| 2024-01-18 10:20|| Front Page Top

#7 The Kunduz war crime was due to the MSF hospital treating Taliban WIA and sending them back onto the battlefield. Then some war criminal at the Pentagon decided on his own accord to put a stop to it and commit a war crime on our behalf. Naturally he was never and arrested for violation of the UMCJ. All that happened was the usual, a couple of low ranking nobodies were punished for "communication difficulties" when the whole CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY was coordinated from inside the Pentagon.

Go figure, later we found out the same people had been lying about Afghanistan for 20 years. Then they lost the war.

This will keep happening until these people start going to prison. If it fucked up Saint Obama's image internationally, just think of what hospital attacks like this will do to Israel in the years and decades to come. Ironically "we didn't target it, it's not a war crime because that requires intent" was the same excuse the deep state used at the time. Nobody believed it, least of all the deep staters who ordered the atrocity.

Posted by Thrans White2909 2024-01-18 10:49|| 2024-01-18 10:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Thank you for the Wikipedia link, Gliper Smith5937. A quick search of Rantburg's archives yields this:

2015-10-16: US analysts knew Afghan site was hospital (and was being used by Taliban as a mosque to store weapons and coordinate activities)

I’ll note that, like the Palestinians in Gaza, using a civilian hospital as a military command post and/or weapons storage facility is a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions, and makes the site a legitimate military target. The fault for all subsequent harm to civilians is laid legally at the feet of the party using it for military purposes, not the party responding militarily. By that argument what the Americans did was therefore not a war crime.

There was a time when people understood that war is not fought using Queensberry Rules.

Given how very far Barack Obama is from sainthood, it was long past time for the internationals to understand exactly what kind of man they had dreamed of having in the Oval Office — we who voted against him already knew. Not that it matters, as that disillusionment happens to every Democratic American president, while the internationals preemptively object to Republican American presidents on principle. I watched it happen to President Clinton from inside the belly of the beast, as it were — to me a fascinating process.

For those who want to do their own searches: in the top right margin of each of the main Rantburg pages (WoT, WoT Background, etc) there is a button that links to the archives, ordered by date. Scrolling down the main Rantburg pages, you’ll find a search button with a box below it to enter your search terms — this pulls up a page to search the entire Rantburg archives at once, giving you a list of articles during the period you designate; the search button and box show up at the top right of each individual article page as well. I’ve saved that search page as one of my favourites — I use it a lot.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-18 13:00|| 2024-01-18 13:00|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ That's how it's done. Balloon goes up, the pinprick of actual facts occurs and the balloon goes pffffft...

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-01-18 13:15|| 2024-01-18 13:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Obama was a saint only in his mind.

Posted by Chesney Sleting4519 2024-01-18 14:30|| 2024-01-18 14:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Now this is the kind of discussion we get when DC.gov gets a 'snow day'.

Posted by Skidmark 2024-01-18 15:13|| 2024-01-18 15:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Wow, you mean the same analysts who investigated themselves and found themselves not at fault decided that they were not at fault?

"The top U.S. officer in Afghanistan, Gen. John Campbell, has said the strike was a mistake,"

If it was a mistake, then how was it an attack on a legitimate military target?

Jesus H., how hard are you fighting for people who commit war crimes on your behalf, and who lost the war after lying about it to you for 20 years.

This is what abuse victims do.

Posted by Thrans White2909 2024-01-18 22:41|| 2024-01-18 22:41|| Front Page Top

#13 People who are afraid of publicity when they know the Big Guy in the White House doesn’t have their back will say things like that, even when they know it isn’t true.

And then people like you, Thrans White2909, rear up on your hind legs to recite chapter and verse from the Idiot’s Handbook, having looked no farther, thinking this somehow means you won.

I learnt about the Geneva Conventions by listening to people who are required to understand it to succeed in their profession, and then by reading the actual words for myself. You aren’t going to persuade me or anyone here if you will not do at least as much.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-18 23:19|| 2024-01-18 23:19|| Front Page Top

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