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2023-10-15 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel says primed for 'significant' three-pronged offensive in Gaza Strip
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Posted by Fred 2023-10-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11142 views ]  Top
 File under: Hamas 

#1 The Israeli military announced...
Israel had issued a deadline...
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited infantry units, instructing...
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken...

When 'the balloon goes up' it won't go very far.
All this talkin' has let out a lot of wind.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-10-15 00:57||   2023-10-15 00:57|| Front Page Top

#2 One will get you five they ain't going in.
Posted by Injun Sheger1721 2023-10-15 09:34||   2023-10-15 09:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Not taking that bet Injun. Cutting off logistics takes a bit longer but less costly. Persistent surveillance and an aggressive program of Whac-A-Mole should keep everyone on their toes.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-10-15 09:40||   2023-10-15 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Israel-Palestine war LIVE: British nationals urged to be on alert in case route out of Gaza opens as PM Rishi Sunak works with foreign officials to seek safe return of 60,000 Britons while battle with Hamas continues
Posted by Skidmark 2023-10-15 11:05||   2023-10-15 11:05|| Front Page Top

#5 If the goal is taking down Hamas, I would use special ops and use regular trips is they get ambushed. If you take territory, you inherit the civilians.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-10-15 11:32||   2023-10-15 11:32|| Front Page Top

#6 And showers. Gotta take showers.

Water is back ON in southern Gaza amid Israeli military siege after deal was struck between President Joe Biden and PM Netanyahu
Posted by Skidmark 2023-10-15 11:43||   2023-10-15 11:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Water back on, what a mistake. My sense has been since the Mooselimbs have had decades of preparation, that the subterranean defense systems, command detonated massive explosives, semsors, biohazards, surface AP and AT mines, sniper positions, all would make ground force incursions extremely costly. Total blockade, including power, food, water, fuel and extensive use of deep penetration munitions seemed the best tactic. Demonstrations of IDF ground forces on the edge but not actually crossing the LD/LC, and long delays without any supplies or water, would adversely impact actual Hamas operators and drive them to the surface. Sadly, the dynamic of media/political pressure on the Puppet Show is having the predicted effects.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-10-15 12:33||   2023-10-15 12:33|| Front Page Top

#8 So what's the thinking here? If Israel can hit 70-80% of their military goals without going in, then don't go in?
Posted by Angstrom 2023-10-15 12:33||   2023-10-15 12:33|| Front Page Top

#9 One will get you five they ain't going in.

They ain't going in right away. That would be suicidal given the nature of urban combat and that Hamas is well-prepared. If I were me, I'd spend a good while shutting down the tunnel system and blowing up anything and everyone I could reach by air or artillery.
Posted by SteveS 2023-10-15 12:36||   2023-10-15 12:36|| Front Page Top

#10 ^^^
Let the blockade degrade the effectiveness of the prepared defenses as much as possible and then, methodically follow the Roman model for Carthage, salt to taste!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-10-15 12:38||   2023-10-15 12:38|| Front Page Top

#11 It seems to me that osturing from the border coupled with water only in the southern end of Gaza will encourage the residents to move out of the north despite Hamas efforts to keep them in place as human shields.

But 60,000 British citizens living in Gaza? One can’t imagine the government wants them to come “home”.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-10-15 12:51||   2023-10-15 12:51|| Front Page Top

#12 ^It's British government TW.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-15 13:02||   2023-10-15 13:02|| Front Page Top

#13 If the goal is to break Hamas, I am hopeful that they can use facial recognition to delouse any herding civilians.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-10-15 13:02||   2023-10-15 13:02|| Front Page Top

#14 You can't break Hamas - they'll Hamas (or ISIS, or Hizballah)
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-15 13:03||   2023-10-15 13:03|| Front Page Top

#15 
Posted by ACA JOE  2023-10-15 13:35||   2023-10-15 13:35|| Front Page Top

#16 osturing = posturing. PIMF!!
Posted by trailing wife 2023-10-15 13:55||   2023-10-15 13:55|| Front Page Top

#17 We already know from Israeli military sources they delayed the offensive as it has been very cloudy and windy the past 3 days which disrupts drone activity and surveillance platforms.

Water was also only turned on for the southern part of Gaza that Israel told the civilians to flee to. So might be a bit of a carrot to encourage them to go.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-15 14:33||   2023-10-15 14:33|| Front Page Top

#18 
Now that makes sense!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-10-15 15:35||   2023-10-15 15:35|| Front Page Top

#19 Water to tempt them south. bomb the north flat. turn northern gaza into israeli farmland. selectively kill hamas & hezbolah. no gaza immigrants anywhere.
Posted by irish rage boy 2023-10-15 15:50||   2023-10-15 15:50|| Front Page Top

#20 Susan Oliver was born as Charlotte Gercke; she was an American actress, television director, and aviator. She died at 58.
Posted by JohnQC 2023-10-15 22:34||   2023-10-15 22:34|| Front Page Top

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