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2023-02-13 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian soldiers dying at highest rate since beginning of war: UK gov
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Posted by Fred 2023-02-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top
 File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats 

#1 Battle for Bakhmut likely going to cost 30k+ lives _Uk + Russia

Bloodiest European battle since WWII

and for a city with little strategic value
Posted by lord garth 2023-02-13 05:25||   2023-02-13 05:25|| Front Page Top

#2 "Ukraine also continued to suffer a high attrition rate," the Defense Intelligence update stated without providing specific numbers.

"In other news, today's sports scores are 7, 3, and 21."
Yeah, it is an old joke, but it is a bit tough to draw conclusions from the numbers without knowing the Ukr side.

As for Bakhmut, that city of little strategic importance, unless the Ukrainians pull back to preserve their army, it will be a replay of Mariupol. Supply lines will be cut, the city encircled and then pounded to heck with artillery until the defenders are dead or surrendered. Unless the Russians are in a hurry for some reason, they will not try to take Bakhmut all at once.
Posted by SteveS 2023-02-13 10:24||   2023-02-13 10:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Is the narrative still that the Russian casualty rate at Bakhmut Meat Grinder is unsustainable for RUS while a similar Ukrainian casualty rate is sustainable for UKR?

And Does Bakhmut represent how little Ukraine values its people, its human capital?

Surely Ukraine must value it citizens less if they are haphazardly sending them to their death defending a city with little value. So I must conclude ukrianian lives have less value than the little strategic value it costs to hold the city.
Posted by mossomo 2023-02-13 12:54||   2023-02-13 12:54|| Front Page Top

#4 What makes you believe casualties ratios are 1:1? Especially when the Ukrainians are defending against human wave attacks?
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-13 13:25||   2023-02-13 13:25|| Front Page Top

#5 If you believe this I have ocean front property in Colorado.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-13 14:31||   2023-02-13 14:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Dale, your credibility has long been shot and buried in a shallow grave. Take the loss and walk home.
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-13 14:34||   2023-02-13 14:34|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ Or add Thruter to your list of sources. Win-win!
Posted by Javish Lumplump7499 2023-02-13 14:52||   2023-02-13 14:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Jealous.
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-13 15:00||   2023-02-13 15:00|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ Well bottom feeders always wine and moan when anything contrary to their programing is in conflict.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-13 15:50||   2023-02-13 15:50|| Front Page Top

#10 I would suggest ACA JOE could enlighten you. I however see no educational value offered.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-13 15:54||   2023-02-13 15:54|| Front Page Top

#11 You got nothing Dale. You know your side is taking horrendous casualties in the Great Russian Tradition. Mossimo is right in one aspect. Bakhmut holds no special value to Ukraine, except that the Russians are willing to destroy their army for it. That makes it extremely valuable for Ukraine when they can inflict 5:1 or more casualty ratios (soldiers on the line claiming 10+:1 is not uncommon) made worse by the fact Wagner takes little care of their wounded, leaving most of them to die on the battlefield.

Every Russian casualty now is 1:3 Ukrainian casualties avoided when Ukraine goes on the offensive.

So go back to Montana Colorado, raise rabbits and have your round wife cook them for you.
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-13 16:21||   2023-02-13 16:21|| Front Page Top

#12 A squad of the Ukrainian State Border Guards SOF infiltrated a Wagner Base in the East (near Bakhmut). They waited for the invaders to relax. Then 6 with NVG and silencers killed 20 wagnerites, wounded 19, and three captured for interrogation as well.
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-13 16:33||   2023-02-13 16:33|| Front Page Top

#13 the value of Bakhmut is symbolic

in 2014 the Russian backed/supported separatists took this city but were ousted by the Ukrainians

If I were the Ukrainian strategist I would not contest this at the cost of deploying 10 brigades.

and, of course if I were a Russian strategist I would probably advise withdrawal and be shot or sent to Siberia
Posted by lord garth 2023-02-13 16:53||   2023-02-13 16:53|| Front Page Top

#14 ^ This, LG.
Posted by Frank G 2023-02-13 18:44||   2023-02-13 18:44|| Front Page Top

#15 I also heard from the UK government that Putin was waiting for a chance to change his appearance and run off to Canada!





Basically everything is going great then and nobody needs to send anything more, right?
Posted by Dron66046 2023-02-13 19:19||   2023-02-13 19:19|| Front Page Top

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