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2021-10-15 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by BrerRabbit 2021-10-15 01:08|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
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#1 Not as long they are getting $800 billion/year from America.

Posted by Glogum the Low-priced4647 2021-10-15 02:51|| 2021-10-15 02:51|| Front Page Top

/\ Box stores suffer a temporary loss as costly alternative shipping arrangements are hurriedly arranged. The Chinese junk must continue to float, regardless of the increased cost to consumers. The American consumer must not learn that he can actually survive without this stuff.

Calls for the Orange Man's "Made in America" remain a distant, fading memory. I predict however, Pierre Omidyar's ebay (interesting fellow to be sure) will do quite well in the coming months. I continue to wait and see if Amazon and ebay join forces.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-10-15 02:57|| 2021-10-15 02:57|| Front Page Top

#3

Lets say the Social-Capitalist economy fails.
Just what does CCP need from the rest of the world?

Say it folds and the Social-Capitalists go back to being Communists and just re-adopt MAO, kinda a watered down North Korea type operation.

How could the world punish China in any type of meaningful matter, for defaulting of debt

Answer: Just what the World did when the USSR collapsed. They'll reinvest in them and loaned them $$$$$ and rebuilt them into a Super Power and make "plane loads" of $$$$$.

Come to think of it ...
The CCP does own about $2T in USA debt/bonds and that could play a role in backing our backs.

Posted by NN2N1 2021-10-15 08:53|| 2021-10-15 08:53|| Front Page Top

#4 China has fallen. They will literally eat their own. North Korea as an example. The merchandise we now receive is literally cheap copies of the real things. High failure rates. Forget warranties if you can get the parts at all. Payoffs and corruption has brought them down as it will here. Look to alternative countries like India or Vietnam to supply products if you are going to outsource these products. China is done. No food, no water, no power, and no hope. Incompetent leadership as we have here. You can only fail so many times. Those that could leave China have. There is a race to the exit door. The Mao Red book is reborn.

Posted by Dale 2021-10-15 09:58|| 2021-10-15 09:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Wall Street is all-in on China taking over the world. Sort of like they were with Japan Inc. decades ago. The pentagon is all-in on China being the bigger boogie-man compared to Russia. The Uniparty is all-in on China, just because. I would like to see them all lose, but it's a tall order...

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-10-15 10:14|| 2021-10-15 10:14|| Front Page Top

#6 Japan was taking over the world and then flatlined for three decades and counting. I hope its worse for the Chicoms.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-10-15 10:41|| 2021-10-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#7 #5 I understand that opinion. Their view of the world is and has been incorrect. The same is true of the house and senate. Remember Hillery was so backward with computers. A major upgrade is required. They are at least thirty years behind the times. Then you have the tech savvy but they use that knowledge to benefit themselves. So that limits progress. Share, network knowledge and build, advance and so you have a brighter future for all. Each works as a nanobot, there is the real power.

Posted by Dale 2021-10-15 10:56|| 2021-10-15 10:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The Chinese economy can stagnate for 30 years -- and China can still remain a mortal and even growing threat to us. The USSR was a mortal threat even while -- especially while -- its economy was stagnating and its people were living in near-third world poverty. You have to remember that most of their subjects were living hand to mouth just a generation ago.

Also, China for all its problems is still an extraordinarily wealthy and powerful nation. Yes, their military's hollowed out by corruption and incompetence. But they have Nike's and their technology is very advanced -- and getting better.

Especially their AI: when you have the world's largest and most detailed biometric dataset, your AI alogirithms will learn faster and faster. If anything an economically-declining China is an even more dangerous threat than one that's stable and growing.

Posted by Patriot 2021-10-15 11:35|| 2021-10-15 11:35|| Front Page Top

#9 * they have NUKES (as well as "Nike's") ... damn auto-correct

Posted by Patriot 2021-10-15 11:36|| 2021-10-15 11:36|| Front Page Top

#10 I liked the Nikes typo, troops that can pull sweet moves on the court are rarely counted when it comes to military power and it should be.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-10-15 15:47|| 2021-10-15 15:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Well they do have LeBron on their side

Posted by Patriot 2021-10-15 16:24|| 2021-10-15 16:24|| Front Page Top

#12 The difference between the Soviets back then and the Chinese now is that the for generations the average Soviet citizen never experience the massive economic leaps the Chinese have experienced since the late '80s. The Theory of Rising Expectations is the belief that human beings ultimately yearn for more than they have. So they are never completely satisfied. After they get what they want, they yearn for a little bit more or something else. The Chinese people now have a taste of that at a level that the Soviet citizen did not. That leads to social upheaval and unrest when things stop or appear to stop 'progressing'. Americans have lived with that up and down for a lot of their history, this will be the first big down for the contemporary Chinese.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-10-15 16:41|| 2021-10-15 16:41|| Front Page Top

#13 I liked the Nike typo as well. I've always enjoyed exploring local Nike missile bases, even the one that is open to tour.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2021-10-15 22:23|| 2021-10-15 22:23|| Front Page Top

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