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2021-09-05 Afghanistan

General Milley: ‘What You Saw Unfold' with Afghanistan Evacuation Was One of the Plans'

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Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
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#1 "Panicking and fleeing while screaming" is also a commonly used plan, general.

Posted by magpie 2021-09-05 02:17|| 2021-09-05 02:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Looking up as black eye begins to form, "I meant to do that..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-05 07:54|| 2021-09-05 07:54|| Front Page Top

#3 As the old saying goes..... 'when you're splaining, you're losing.'

Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-05 08:09|| 2021-09-05 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 If you didn't expect the Afghan army to fall apart, then you haven't been paying attention for twenty years. I would think the Iraqis in Mosul would have shown y'all what could happen when you aren't propping them up.

Posted by Chris 2021-09-05 09:26|| 2021-09-05 09:26|| Front Page Top

#5 So... you planned to run screaming like a little girl with your tail between your legs?

And this fool is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

Posted by CrazyFool 2021-09-05 09:44|| 2021-09-05 09:44|| Front Page Top

#6 I think we are going to need a steel gallows at Leavenworth in 2025...

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-09-05 10:18|| 2021-09-05 10:18|| Front Page Top

#7 When MacArthur became the Philippines' senior military official, he scrapped Plan Orange which called for retiring to the Bataan peninsula with supplies and stores. He instead insisted upon meeting the enemy on the landing beaches. He failed to inspect the development of the Philippine army, instead listening to 'yes' men he put in place. The the Japanese army invaded, the leaders in the field desperately tried to execute the new plan only to be undermined by an ill trained, ill equipped army lacking communications for mobile operations. Weeks were lost moving anything into the peninsula. When they did it was all too like what you witnessed in Kabul. So, yeah, technically it sort of followed the original Plan Orange, but without the substance of the plan. He should have been relieved like Short and Kimmel in Hawaii.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-09-05 11:42|| 2021-09-05 11:42|| Front Page Top

#8 "So, were there — there’s a lot of lessons learned. And I think we’re going to go through that in a very systematic way."

When the official AAR was put together by CALL of lessons learned in Desert Storm it was held up for months by the commander TRADOC because he wanted a separate 'happy and glad' report. It actually took the prodding of the GAO to get it released over the obstruction.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-09-05 11:46|| 2021-09-05 11:46|| Front Page Top

#9 #7 He wasn't relieved because we needed a hero at the time. I believe the term is "failing upwards."

Posted by Matt 2021-09-05 12:05|| 2021-09-05 12:05|| Front Page Top

#10 (BAF) Biden Administration of Fools threw General Custer under the C-130. Either take the spear to deflect the wrath from Biden or we will demote you to private.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-09-05 12:08|| 2021-09-05 12:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Well I guess a royal fuck up is a plan... in a retarded sort of way.

Posted by DarthVader 2021-09-05 12:38|| 2021-09-05 12:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Yeah, even with the worst of luck, they couldn't have screwed it up that badly without a plan.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-09-05 15:08|| 2021-09-05 15:08|| Front Page Top

#13 The Vets I have talked to(who were there) said "I have returned" MacArthur arrived after the shooting stopped. Milley has a similar look to him but he was never there. As with MacArthur he had his hand picked news sources who fed him only positive information it seems.

Posted by Dale 2021-09-05 15:19|| 2021-09-05 15:19|| Front Page Top

#14 I think it’s safe to say Milley is Biden’s stooge
The only question is how low will be to.

Posted by Lonzo Hapsburg5562 2021-09-05 15:47|| 2021-09-05 15:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Dale,

So you want the General who is over the entire theater on the front lines where they can get shot which would give he enemy a victory and to demoralize your own troops??????? (good lord!)

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-09-05 19:14|| 2021-09-05 19:14|| Front Page Top

#16 By the way Dale, before MacArthur became General he did some rather amazing things in battle.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-09-05 19:17|| 2021-09-05 19:17|| Front Page Top

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