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2021-08-16 Afghanistan

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Posted by Fred 2021-08-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top
File under: Taliban

#1 The profits of the military-industrial complex. And so the deep staters at the Pentagon and State could play the game of thrones.

Maybe get angry at them? And do something about it? Come on, these are veterans with combat experience.

Posted by Slomorong Thraiger7030 2021-08-16 00:18|| 2021-08-16 00:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Veterans are people who pledged allegiance to the State and fought for it. Perhaps blame the politicians who killed them and other innocent people?

Posted by Wren 2021-08-16 01:05|| 2021-08-16 01:05|| Front Page Top

#3 1. Pull out. Embarg-oh every piece of aid and money to AFG. Disassociate completely.

2. Let an Emirate grow there, let the shura fight it out who will reign and who will remain in Quetta. This may take not more than two or three years. Disregard the 'oh the humanity!' cries of the media and sit still on your arse until then.

3. False flag some minor outrage against yourself or allies. There are ways to instigate the actor to hit you too and leave an inviting opening, I'm sure the State Dept knows tonnes about that. Because they may not do anything of the scale to warrant the response. For a real outrage you'll have to wait so long they'll probably have a seat in the UN by then.

3. Nuke Kabul. 💥 Destroy the dream of an islamic emirate and regain the lost morale. And no, conventional missile warfare, bombing and artillery and sorties based on intelligence from Islamabad won't cut it.

Only then will they have died for something.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-16 02:11|| 2021-08-16 02:11|| Front Page Top

#4 ^Why tf is India busy on saving Afghans?? What about other the 56 ISLAMIC COUNTRIES? Where's that bitch Malala?? I don't want India to become sharia hellhole!

Posted by Wren 2021-08-16 02:58|| 2021-08-16 02:58|| Front Page Top

#5
I have honestly felt since the 1960's, Congress needs to seriously overhaul the process in which the USA President and themselves declare wars AND how it will be waged.

A ground war there, in my opinion.
Was never a realistic process for success.
Just look at the previous British and USSR failures over the preceding 150+/- years.

Also given back on 05/01/2011, the DC/DOD claimed it eliminated OBL and had killed a lot of top Al-Qaeda leadership.

So wouldn't a US pull out in 2011-12 been a good time leave?

Posted by NN2N1 2021-08-16 05:33|| 2021-08-16 05:33|| Front Page Top

#6 I knew if I waited long enough Dron66046 would arrive with his latest ghoulish fantasies of genocide. And here he is.

Posted by Slomorong Thraiger7030 2021-08-16 07:08|| 2021-08-16 07:08|| Front Page Top

#7 I have honestly felt since the 1960's, Congress needs to seriously overhaul the process in which the USA President and themselves declare wars AND how it will be waged.

Short end - Covert the Army over to the Swiss system without authority to be deployed. Increase the Marine Corps somewhat to be the force to be deployed outside of the country. If you don't have the toys to play with, your means to get into trouble are reduced.

When the Wall came down, it was the signal to leave. When OBL was wacked, it was the signal to leave.

When you go to war, you go to war not some kabuki substitute for the real thing.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-16 07:11|| 2021-08-16 07:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Slomorong Thraiger

The only people to conquer Afghanistan were the Mongols. They did just that.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-16 07:13|| 2021-08-16 07:13|| Front Page Top

Dial 66046 for Murder

Posted by Shinemble Munster5242 2021-08-16 07:15|| 2021-08-16 07:15|| Front Page Top

#10
It's a world without spine
yet everyone is fringed.
I'm the sanest canine,
yet I am unhinged?

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-16 09:25|| 2021-08-16 09:25|| Front Page Top

#11 That's our Dron, a regular Genghis he is! Perhaps his viewpoint is colored by dealing with sasquatches on a professional basis.

Posted by SteveS 2021-08-16 09:33|| 2021-08-16 09:33|| Front Page Top

#12 They fought to give Afghanistan a 20 year chance. You can't really do more than provide a chance. Unfortunately the Afghans came up unworthy (as did the Iraqs and others).

They fought to provide a lesson to America that we shouldn't be trying to build up countries. Our own politicians and military get corrupted in the process. Or troops get killed and maimed. And the nations rarely step up to defend themselves the way we expect, they just know how to use us as a jobs work program until its time to catch the last flight out.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-08-16 10:14|| 2021-08-16 10:14|| Front Page Top

#13 According to today's State Dept, they died for Intersectionality.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2021-08-16 11:48|| 2021-08-16 11:48|| Front Page Top

#14 All this is the Afghans fault? Boy, that's a hot take. WTF? How can you shit on people that got bombed and droned and had their wedding parties blasted with HMX because any gathering of men was deemed a terrorist plot? And all this is their fault?

Put the blame where it belongs: the ghouls in the State Department and Pentagon. The Taliban offered to surrender in December 2001 but this was rejected.

Posted by Slomorong Thraiger7030 2021-08-16 12:13|| 2021-08-16 12:13|| Front Page Top

#15 MONEY!

Posted by Titus the Tiny6941 2021-08-16 12:50|| 2021-08-16 12:50|| Front Page Top

#16 The Taliban offered to surrender in December 2001 but this was rejected.

From Slomorong Thraiger7030’s link:

Rumsfeld Rejects PlanTo Allow Mullah Omar 'To Live in Dignity' : Taliban Fighters Agree to Surrender Kandahar
Dec. 7, 2001
WASHINGTON— Afghanistan's Taliban militia said Thursday that it had agreed to surrender its last remaining stronghold, the southern city of Kandahar, to a prominent anti-Taliban commander and would begin giving up its weapons on Friday.

But Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld immediately objected to portions of the deal that reportedly would allow the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, to remain in Kandahar to "live in dignity" in opposition custody, so long as he renounced terrorism.

Even as we type, Taliban representatives continue to meet in Doha, continuing to negotiate a “peaceful transition” as they have done for the last many years while they quietly trained in Pakistan and killed and bribed in Afghanistan to prepare the ground for their reconquest. This is a textbook case of taqiyya, or possibly one of the other four types of Sharia-mandated Muslim lies required by Allah, one of whose titles is The Prince of Lies.

We tried the precision targetting, hearts and minds route. When we have to go back, it should be with B-52s — Operation Arc Light II across Afghanistan and key points in Pakistan.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-08-16 13:25|| 2021-08-16 13:25|| Front Page Top

#17 It is the Afghans fault because it is the Afghans country. The US military leaders must share a lot of blame but we were not occupiers who could do whatever we wished. If we were (as in Germany and Japan) I suspect the result would have been different.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-08-16 13:30|| 2021-08-16 13:30|| Front Page Top

#18 Looks like some commenters are pissed off that more Americans won't be coming back home maimed, missing body parts and scarred with PTSD.

Nobody's going back to Afghanistan. The American people won't stand for it. Deal with it: your precious mass murdering war is over. It was always going to end this way.

Well, unless the Taliban surrendered and disarmed and went home. But then you wouldn't have been able to kill so many people.

Posted by Slomorong Thraiger7030 2021-08-16 14:31|| 2021-08-16 14:31|| Front Page Top

#19 your precious mass murdering war

Hardly WW2 in casualties. No non-precision bombing or fire bombing of urban areas. No shut off of the flow of food (doing to Japan what Germany tried to do to England).

The obvious hate within you is deep.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-16 15:07|| 2021-08-16 15:07|| Front Page Top

#20 /\ This. You sound deranged, ST7030.

Posted by Shiva Protector of the Hohlraums 2021-08-16 15:50|| 2021-08-16 15:50|| Front Page Top

#21 #18 Russian or Chinese, or Iranian, Troll Watchers want to know?

Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-16 16:09|| 2021-08-16 16:09|| Front Page Top

#22 It doesn't matter. Biden's response and Pelosi's to Afghanistan shows you they just want "the little people" dead unless they are ChiComs or Taliban.

Posted by 3dc 2021-08-16 16:44|| 2021-08-16 16:44|| Front Page Top

#23 Slomorong Thraiger7030 is Herb McCoy waxing insultingly self-righteous again. It’s what he lives for.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-08-16 18:21|| 2021-08-16 18:21|| Front Page Top

#24 So that isn't downwind of Innsmouth after all.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-16 18:42|| 2021-08-16 18:42|| Front Page Top

#25 Slomorong Thraiger7030 is Herb

Ah, I thought that vitriol smelled familiar!
Afghanistan is *bleep*ed, gas prices are up and now we are getting refried vitriol. Man, the Biden Era sucks.

Posted by SteveS 2021-08-16 20:58|| 2021-08-16 20:58|| Front Page Top

#26 I knew it. ☻

Self flagellant whipping boy,
the entity called Herb McCoy.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-16 22:35|| 2021-08-16 22:35|| Front Page Top

#27 Nobody's going back to Afghanistan. The American people won't stand for it.

Tell that to Biden, please. In that sentiment I agree with you 100%, nobody should. I'm not a warmonger of any sort. But once you're in it, there are ways to win and ways to lose. I am not fond of ways to lose.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-16 22:40|| 2021-08-16 22:40|| Front Page Top

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