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2021-05-31 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Lord of the Rings the Mein Kampf of Forces of Good
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Posted by badanov 2021-05-31 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10797 views ]  Top

#1 "It was caused by the infamous Hobbitt Pipeweed Cartel conspiring with Gondor's military-industrial complex!" Or so goes a satirical parody on McSweeney's Internet Tendency (here is part 1 of 3): UNUSED AUDIO COMMENTARY BY HOWARD ZINN AND NOAM CHOMSKY, RECORDED SUMMER 2002 FOR THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (PLATINUM SERIES EXTENDED EDITION) DVD, PART ONE by TOM BISSELL and JEFF ALEXANDER
Posted by magpie 2021-05-31 00:23||   2021-05-31 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Ales Mishchenko is a moral and mental retard. He must do obscene things to icons of Putin every night, while muttering "my precious, my precious".

Tolkien told a story of the fight against the lust for power. There were only three real-world cultures he used as models: the Anglo-Saxons (Rohirrim), loosely the Byzantines (Gondor), and the British country folk (Hobbits). To believe it was a screed against "Asiatics" and Russians, you have to be paranoid as only a Russian can be.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-05-31 06:26||   2021-05-31 06:26|| Front Page Top

#3 ^ Given English academia of the time, I'm pretty sure the fairies had a real-world parallel as well.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-05-31 10:35||   2021-05-31 10:35|| Front Page Top

#4 But the Dwarves are definitely Jews?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-05-31 11:22||   2021-05-31 11:22|| Front Page Top

#5  "the ring of omniimpotence"

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Posted by Skidmark 2021-05-31 11:39||   2021-05-31 11:39|| Front Page Top

#6 And Trump is Tom Bombadil. Or is he Gandalf? Brennan is Sauron (the 'all seeing eye'). The Squad is the Nine Nazgul...
Please continue...
Posted by CrazyFool 2021-05-31 12:38||   2021-05-31 12:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Tolkien later regretted that his Dwarves had some of the stereotypes attributed to Jews as he had not intended any connection.

Most of the claims against Dwarves have to do with their greed but in the books the only greed we see is others coveting Dwarven wealth and the Dwarves hoping to reclaim what was taken from them.
Posted by rjschwarz 2021-05-31 14:47||   2021-05-31 14:47|| Front Page Top

#8 The Nazis were in power when "The Hobbit" was being translated into German. A German official contacted Tolkien and asked about his heritage. Tolkien responded, "Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch... But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people."
Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-05-31 15:33||   2021-05-31 15:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Never heard that one about the Dwarves.

In The Hobbit, the Dwarves were the vassal of the plot point Dragon Sickness, both a literary and cultural concept during Tolkien's time which had to be explained in the movies, one of the good things about the movies. It is a reference to the olden times concerning the lords who would amass wealth trough taxes and tolls, and not spend it on anything other than the one who suffered from Dragon Sickness.

Bilbo points this out and is cast aside. In The Rings, it again bites the Dwarves in the ass as they stay inside their fortified keep to amass wealth, waking the Balrog this time.

More about English assholes who didn't want to untie purse strings for philanthropy, churches, or civic projects, likely from Caxton's 16th century translation into English St. George and the Dragon.

But that is how I was taught, with the heavy leaning on Nordic creatures and Christian overtones, is that the invaders from the East and South were Vikings, Gondor was King Alfred's London, and the question of the winner was parallel to whether the Isles would be Christian or Nordic Pagan.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-05-31 17:42||   2021-05-31 17:42|| Front Page Top

#10 As for this garbage think, there is an effort underway to Woke all things Fantasy, especially the well known Dungeons and Dragons, and what may be Game of the Year, Frosthaven.

By attacking the fountainhead of fantasy as racist, the attempt is on to, using their words, colonize Fantasy and Fantasy Gaming.

So instead of having the unexpected hero as an orc, like say in the movie Dudes and Dragons, they send in thought police to review canon, characters, and events to create a safe space. In fantasy adventure.

In other words, if you are thirsty, you have to drink the punch they shit in and make comments like, I never knew grape and corn go well together! I'm sorry, I meant maize! I meant maize! Don't punish my character!
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-05-31 17:46||   2021-05-31 17:46|| Front Page Top

#11 #9: But that is how I was taught, with the heavy leaning on Nordic creatures and Christian overtones, is that the...
Or maybe, just maybe, Tolkien never felt the need to explore the history and myths of Ancient China or India to write his story. Silly of him, right?

Thanks to all the Rantburgers by discussing this Academic "digression from practical reality".
Posted by magpie 2021-05-31 19:49||   2021-05-31 19:49|| Front Page Top

#12 #10 there is an effort underway to Woke all things Fantasy...By attacking the fountainhead of fantasy as racist, the attempt is on to, using their words, colonize Fantasy and Fantasy Gaming

Wokesters: FOOK.OFF.
Very much.
Posted by Betty Glinetch1592 2021-05-31 20:02||   2021-05-31 20:02|| Front Page Top

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