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2021-02-22 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
WSJ - We'll Have Herd Immunity by April
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Posted by Besoeker 2021-02-22 07:07|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336091 views ]  Top

#1 However, we have been told by many experts that there will be no such thing.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-02-22 07:38||   2021-02-22 07:38|| Front Page Top

#2 By April, most senior citizens (and those with vulnerabilities) should be vaccinated. The rest will either not even feel any symptoms or only experience mild ones.

The virus is not likely to mutate into a killer machine. It wants to survive, too.
Posted by European Conservative 2021-02-22 07:54||   2021-02-22 07:54|| Front Page Top

#3 My contact in St. Petersburg stays indoors because of the high morbidity there at this time. No social gatherings. No photos. She writes her poetry. Cuts her own hair with old scissors. Very cold there and lots of snow. Sad times.
Posted by Dale 2021-02-22 08:00||   2021-02-22 08:00|| Front Page Top

#4 I for many years have refused the vaccines offered.I have worked many years and have not been sick. Never missed a day of scheduled work. I will continue as I have done with no fear or trepidation. I am in contact every day with many people, front line as they say. I do not live in fear. I seize the day.
Posted by Dale 2021-02-22 08:07||   2021-02-22 08:07|| Front Page Top

#5 "The Price We Pay." No, I am free of such thought's.
Posted by Dale 2021-02-22 08:09||   2021-02-22 08:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Reviewing my Worldometers spreadsheet, it seems everything peaked in early January. Deaths did have a huge spike Feb. 13 (6,869) but "Serious/Critical" (ICU) is 55% of the peak in early January.

Light at the end of Joe's 'dark winter' tunnel? Or -
Posted by Bobby 2021-02-22 08:49||   2021-02-22 08:49|| Front Page Top

#7 These "experts" in general are profoundly ignorant of what immunity to COVID-19 means, and don't know how to measure it until long after the fact. We'll know what "herd immunity" to COVID-19 amounts to, I estimate, a couple of years after the amount of new cases bottom lines. We won't know it until after it happens. YMMV.
Posted by Knuckles Fluper5134 2021-02-22 14:11||   2021-02-22 14:11|| Front Page Top

#8 The other half said there isn’t enough data
The "other half" always wants more data. They will only stop objecting to contrary conclusions after the pandemic is done and gone. Long gone.
Posted by Knuckles Fluper5134 2021-02-22 14:13||   2021-02-22 14:13|| Front Page Top

#9 You will obey St. Fauci and you will like it.

Notice that pig is suddenly in videos supporting the "great reset"? Hmmm.
Posted by Clem 2021-02-22 14:16||   2021-02-22 14:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity. We really don't know what "natural immunity" is, so he is overstating his case. For example the high degree of immunity demonstrated by the under age 18 demographic is not understood and has not been explained. Most likely most COVID-19 infections trigger natural immunity, is all I would say at present.
Posted by Knuckles Fluper5134 2021-02-22 14:18||   2021-02-22 14:18|| Front Page Top

#11 The math is rather obvious: 30 million or so confirmed cases, 30 million or more inoculations with another million a day being added. That's 20% of the population, concentrated in the most vulnerable.

Add to that possibly 2x the cases that were asymptomatic and who are carrying T-cell immunity, so another 60 million unreported.

Thats approaching half the US population, with the most vulnerable becoming immune. Most of the remaining are less likely to have anything more than a cold-like or light flu-like symtoms.

The math has been obvious. 99.5* or more survive, most without extreme illness.

What Trump did work. What Governors like DeSantis (Florida) and Abbot (Texas) did work - quarantine and protect the vulnerable, especially the elderly and those in nursing homes, apply localized control for masking and shutdowns only when the case rate jumps to a threatening level.

Of course this blows Fauci, Biden, and the Establishment health industry-government goons out of the water, and it breaks the control freaks' narratives on the left and in government, so the press will never let go of it. They can't possibly have Trump and Republicans being right, and they can't let people become "uncontrolled".
Posted by Deadeye Jaiting7534 2021-02-22 19:44||   2021-02-22 19:44|| Front Page Top

#12 And FYI, Dr Markey is not the first one to come out with this analysis. Several others, epidemiologists, predicted it based on their observations of asymptomatic transmission, a lack of testing, overdependence on "confirmed" data, overdependence on antibody based immunity tests for something that's T-cell mediated (because antibodies are cheap and easy, even if they are not accurate nor completely indicative/applicable), and many other ignored factors. Politics blinded science - just look at Fauci saying you don't need masks, then yes you do, then not really effective, then mandated, then you need 2 masks... not a shred scientifically irrefutable empirical evidence to back up ANY of his statements. Yet the press lionized that hack.

The remarkable thing is how quickly multiple effective vaccines were developed and tested, and how rapidly and widespread their production and distribution is -- once the government got the hell out of the way except in a minimal fashion.

So be thankful, and if you are high risk get your vaccine as soon as you can, and then throw the damned masks away 3 weeks after your final dose, and go out to a restaurant.
Posted by Deadeye Jaiting7534 2021-02-22 19:58||   2021-02-22 19:58|| Front Page Top

#13 Dale, you are right when you say you "dont have a thought" - the Price we Pay was a book about ripoff medical costs, and how insurance and hospital corporations are screwing us. I disagree with Mackey's intent toward government solutions, but he isn't wrong when it comes to price gouging and irrational limitations on care by the medical and insurance establishment with the government enforcing it.
Posted by Deadeye Jaiting7534 2021-02-22 20:01||   2021-02-22 20:01|| Front Page Top

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