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2021-02-04 Home Front: Politix

Former CIA Officer: Treat Domestic ~~Non-Leftist~~ Extremism As An Insurgency

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2021-02-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 More talk like Grenier will result in more FBI agents shot when they visit alleged protesters.

Posted by Lonzo Ebbineck2209 2021-02-04 00:36|| 2021-02-04 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 "Grenier" is French for 'attic'. And that's where this puke belongs.

Posted by Clem 2021-02-04 00:42|| 2021-02-04 00:42|| Front Page Top

#3 OF course who decides what is 'extremism'? Facebook? Twitter? The Media? The FBI? The CIA? The President?

Why is month-long riots, violence, targeting police and others with actual lethal weapons, and burning down actual buildings not an insurgency but being *invited* into the capital building is, by police, is?

Posted by CrazyFool 2021-02-04 01:06|| 2021-02-04 01:06|| Front Page Top

#4 Where were these assholes when Chuckie Schumer was inciting "the Resistance" to storm the Supreme Court building?

When he gave a public speech threatening - by name and with crude blunt language - Gorsuch and Kavanaugh with intimidation and even violence?

When the "Resistance" stalked congressmen in the halls and elevators of the Capitol?

When Antifa/BLM tried to storm the White House, violently attacking and injuring over 60 Secret Service agents guarding the White House?

ENOUGH OF THESE OUTRAGEOUS LIES.

This shit must stop.

If it continues, we'll have no choice but to fight back -- and not with words or ballots.

Posted by Jiggs Thoper6992 2021-02-04 01:07|| 2021-02-04 01:07|| Front Page Top

#5 The rioting, looting, attack on the capital and bloodshed were very likely sanctioned by the DS and left. Conservatives and the Right were held responsible. The parallels to the Kristallnacht cannot be written off as a coincidence.

History Channel excerpt: In the immediate aftermath of Kristallnacht, the streets of Jewish communities were littered with broken glass from vandalized buildings, giving rise to the name Night of Broken Glass. The Nazis held the German-Jewish community responsible for the damage and imposed a collective fine of $400 million (in 1938 rates), according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Additionally, more than 30,000 Jewish men were arrested and sent to the Dachau, Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen concentration camps in Germany–camps that were specifically constructed to hold Jews, political prisoners and other perceived enemies of the Nazi state.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-02-04 04:14|| 2021-02-04 04:14|| Front Page Top

#6 When you see Bob on the street, just say "Hi" !

Posted by Salmson 2021-02-04 05:43|| 2021-02-04 05:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Gaslighting all around. Who does the government coddle and why?

Michael Yon who has been on Antifa like Andy Ngo on rice had this observation:

Michael Yon: ‘Agent Provocateur’ Tactics Were Seen at Jan. 6 Capitol Protest

The throng of people who stormed the Capitol building on Jan. 6 during the joint session of Congress was led by Antifa and its agent provocateurs who guided Trump supporters into the Capitol building, Michael Yon, a war correspondent who has covered hundreds of protests, told The Epoch Times’ Crossroads program.

Yon was on the scene but did not go inside the Capitol. “I was outside the building, watching the activities out there,” he said.

There are different elements of Antifa, and the one seen at the Capitol was described by Yon as an “A-Team” of Antifa’s special forces used only to carry out special actions. This is a different element than the Antifa groups that were seen in riots in Portland or in the occupied zone there, he explained.

“They’re well trained, they’re well organized, they show up with the gear that they need. They’ve got the statements ready to say … They come out, they make great statements for the camera, sound bites. These guys are professionals,” Yon said about Antifa’s A-Team.

Antifa uses agent provocateurs with a typical tactic of showing up at a protest wearing their enemy’s clothing, waving their enemy’s flags, and doing things which are commonly called “false flag operations,” said Yon, who has deep insights into Antifa and their tactics.

Agent provocateurs may come to an already arranged protest and harness the energy of the gathering or they may also arrange a protest under the false flag of their enemy, Yon said. But in this case, Trump supporters had a real rally.

After President Donald Trump gave a speech at the Ellipse, his supporters marched over 30-45 minutes to get to the next rally at the Capitol building. At that time, Yon started seeing some people guiding the crowd. Those people who were saying “come forward, keep coming … go over the wall,” were agent provocateurs (APs), Yon said.

The APs had taken down the bike rack barriers set up for the rally attendees at the Capitol and used those to make ladders to help protesters go over the wall, Yon said. He saw APs waving huge Trump flags and saying: “This is your job. This is your chance. Stand up for your country.”

“He who has the microphone has the power,” Yon said. “Once people get riled up, they’ll do it. Because we’re humans and we will go with the herd,” he added.

Yon also saw Trump supporters saying, “there is Antifa here.” When Antifa started attacking the police, protesters at the rally the supporters said, “that’s not us, that’s Antifa,” Yon continued. He witnessed protesters in front of him saying, “there’s Antifa here. They’re doing this. Antifa are making us look bad, be careful.”

He also saw on an Epoch Times video “a guy with a Trump sticker on the back of his helmet starting to break the window with a truncheon” while another person who appeared “to be a Trump supporter comes to bear hug him and grab him back.”

“These are clear agent provocateur actions,” Yon said adding “It’s an old technique that goes back centuries.”

On that day, he observed that when instigators were leading protesters into action and breaking down doors, many Trump supporters were saying “don’t break anything, don’t steal anything.”

The Epoch Times has many videos showing how Trump supporters tried to stop the destruction or breaking things during the Jan. 6 protest.

Posted by Gletch Ebbeating3749 2021-02-04 06:06|| 2021-02-04 06:06|| Front Page Top

#8 I can assure you first hand Yon didn’t see large numbers of Antifa at the capital. I found his article more self promotion than fact.

Posted by Lonzo Ebbineck2209 2021-02-04 07:55|| 2021-02-04 07:55|| Front Page Top

#9 DW "Grenier added that after the fall of Kandahar in December 2001 "I thought that some effort should have been made to reach out to some elements within the Taliban leadership to provide them with assurance that there would be some future for them in Afghanistan. But there was absolutely no interest from the American side in doing that. At the time we did not realize how important an opportunity it was, or how grave the consequences of our failure to seize that opportunity would ultimately be. I think we missed a major opportunity at that point."
About negotiations with Taliban leader Mullah Omar's deputy, Mullah Osmani, Grenier said: "I tried to convince [Mullah Osmani] to move Mullah Omar aside and to seize power himself to do what needed to be done – both to bring Bin Laden and his key lieutenants to justice but also to save the Taliban movement." Grenier said the negotiations failed because "Mullah Omar had too much control over his own people, and there was no way that Mullah Omar could be convinced himself to turn over Bin Laden."

Posted by b 2021-02-04 08:05|| 2021-02-04 08:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Mr. Grenier makes no mention of the coup and impeachment that began the day Mr. Trump took office.

A good place to start might be to bring justice to those who took part in the ongoing four year coup.

75-80 million Trump supporters is not what I'd call an insurgency. It is a large-scale popular movement. Because there are questions about election-rigging and corruption in the election process, it would have been good to air all this out. It never really has to this day. If there was no corruption and it was an honest election, supporters would support the outcome. However, nothing points to an honest election. Laws were broken in the name of Covid-19 to get Biden over the finish line. This has never been addressed.

Posted by JohnQC 2021-02-04 08:21|| 2021-02-04 08:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Yon didn't say a large number of Antifa were there. He said small groups of provocateurs (“A-Team”) came with a plan and equipment to make their voices be heard outsized to their numbers.
“They’re well trained, they’re well organized, they show up with the gear that they need. They’ve got the statements ready to say … They come out, they make great statements for the camera, sound bites. These guys are professionals,” Yon said about Antifa’s A-Team.

Antifa uses agent provocateurs with a typical tactic of showing up at a protest wearing their enemy’s clothing, waving their enemy’s flags, and doing things which are commonly called “false flag operations,” said Yon, who has deep insights into Antifa and their tactics.

After President Donald Trump gave a speech at the Ellipse, his supporters marched over 30-45 minutes to get to the next rally at the Capitol building. At that time, Yon started seeing some people guiding the crowd. Those people who were saying “come forward, keep coming … go over the wall,” were agent provocateurs (APs), Yon said.

Also jibes with an ex-FBI agent seeing a bus full of Antifa unloading before the rally.

BREAKING REPORT: Former FBI Agent on the Ground at US Capitol Says at Least One Bus Load of Antifa Thugs Infiltrated Trump Demonstration
Eyewitness reports one of the first people to break a window at the Capitol wearing a US flag shirt but took it off and tossed it in bush after. Others in dark clothing urging people to rush forward, starting anti-govt chants in crowd.
— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 6, 2021

Posted by Gletch Ebbeating3749 2021-02-04 08:24|| 2021-02-04 08:24|| Front Page Top

#12 Trump rallies and patriot gatherings have long been an anathema to the left and Deep State. Direct assaults on Trump rallies would have been immediately put down by the Secret Service. This was a well coordinated 'off-set' free of Secret Service intervention. It was very likely long in the making. I suspect those arrested will eventually be released without charges or penalties.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-02-04 08:29|| 2021-02-04 08:29|| Front Page Top

#13 Is he a closet sunni too, like Brennan and Obama? Wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-02-04 08:50|| 2021-02-04 08:50|| Front Page Top

#14 The use of left-wing agent provocateurs have been a part of the left's playbook for a long time. They glom onto peaceful rallies and turn them into violence riots. This to be what happened at the Capitol.

Trump never had any of these problems at his rallies prior to this one as they were very controlled and any such trouble makers were removed.

Antifa/BLM have not been condemned by the Dems and it appears, they support these Marxists. One should look into the Color Revolutions abroad and follow the money that supports them. Here too, left wing money is funneled into collection points like Act Blue for distribution to left-wing causes and political campaigns.

I saw a young girl a few months ago who was working at a McDonalds. She was wearing a BLM tee shirt. At the time, I wondered how much she knew about BLM. Recently, on a news report, I saw a huge BLM sign painted on the top of a building in D.C. near the Whitehouse.

Posted by JohnQC 2021-02-04 09:29|| 2021-02-04 09:29|| Front Page Top

#15 #14 I saw a young girl a few months ago who was working at a McDonalds.

This was just outside of Atlanta.

Posted by JohnQC 2021-02-04 09:31|| 2021-02-04 09:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Like most people, JQC, she'd say, "Well, black lives matter. Of course they do. What else is there to know?"

Posted by Bobby 2021-02-04 11:49|| 2021-02-04 11:49|| Front Page Top

#17 Left is not gonna like it once the Right is in charge again. Right doesn't typically break rules, but once they rules are discardeds...

Posted by rjschwarz 2021-02-04 13:33|| 2021-02-04 13:33|| Front Page Top

#18 How many times does it need to be said: DISBAND THE CIA. Create a new narrowly focused agency, and parcel out much of the functions of the current CIA to other agencies. Tear down the vertical structures, and discharge anyone in a position of authority that has become involved in this sort of overt domestic political activity. The do the same for NSA, give most of its functions to NRO and DIA, and FORBID domestic activities under penalty of law with harsh mandatory minimums.

I have been posting that the CIA needed to be cleaned out with a flamethrower for over a decade here (and privately in classified circles prior to my final debrief).

Brennan and people like him are the largest threat to our freedom and our nation. Trump's biggest mistake was not shitcanning the lot of them.

Posted by OldSpook 2021-02-04 14:49|| 2021-02-04 14:49|| Front Page Top

#19 /\ You've got my vote OS. Those perfidious foks should have been taken down decades ago.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-02-04 16:23|| 2021-02-04 16:23|| Front Page Top

#20 You mean the CIA is going to pay me to grow Poppies and offer protection money so long as ~~Europe~~ the west coast gets affordable heroin? Get the ol' al-Sadr Mysteriously Gets Away phone call?

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