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A New Party: Recipe for Failure
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Posted by Besoeker 2021-01-29 01:51|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336083 views ]  Top

#1 A new party works only if it's replacing an old party that's pretty much dead. Lots of people compare the GOPe to the Whigs, but it's not that accurate a comparison at this point.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-01-29 06:27||   2021-01-29 06:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Good point, MM. Let's see what the next two years bring in the way of a GOP stay in the ICU.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-01-29 07:26||   2021-01-29 07:26|| Front Page Top

#3 until term limits on the house and senate are put in place, it doesn't matter what you call any of them besides pieces of shit.
Posted by Chris 2021-01-29 08:31||   2021-01-29 08:31|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ Hear, Hear!
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-01-29 08:38||   2021-01-29 08:38|| Front Page Top

#5 So wait. If the conservative party primaries the schmucks in the republican party, side with the GOP in national matters, it would be ok.
Posted by 49 Pan 2021-01-29 11:11||   2021-01-29 11:11|| Front Page Top

#6 ^ you're positing a fair election.... dreamer
Posted by Mercutio 2021-01-29 11:36||   2021-01-29 11:36|| Front Page Top

#7 With each round of elections we’ve been getting new, conservative blood, many of them with the sobering military experience of fighting jihadis. And with each election more of the Old Guard have decided it is time to retire — my own Republican senator, Rob Porter, will not be running in 2022, and as the reports posted here recently suggest, despite that basketball player there are several serious conservative candidates looking at replacing him. Those who don’t win that round can go after Sherrod Brown when his term is up; one of them will likely take the slot, giving Ohio two seriously conservative senators for the first time, and two who are likely to quickly climb the learning curve to the political wiliness necessary to be effective in that room full of collegial snakes.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-29 11:42||   2021-01-29 11:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Party went the elitist country club way under the Bush's. Trump has mostly restored it to where it belongs and judging by polls most Republican voters agree. Starting a new party is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Posted by rjschwarz 2021-01-29 12:41||   2021-01-29 12:41|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ but when the baby keeps p*ssing in the bathwater, it's time to throw both out.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-01-29 15:26||   2021-01-29 15:26|| Front Page Top

#10 tw, while what you say is true, look what happened here in Georgia. Both our "conservatives" are now out of office to warnock and the bitch ossoff.
Posted by Chris 2021-01-29 15:48||   2021-01-29 15:48|| Front Page Top

#11  look what happened here in Georgia.

That’s true, Chris. But overall there are still more Republicans in office across the country, and more of the Republicans are conservative, so despite losing the Senate we are still in a better place than we were before the election. Red states are the ones gaining population with improving economies, while the Blue states are bleeding both money and residents because conservatism simply works better — both at the individual level and for society. Despite their eagerness to do so, Congress cannot require the states to institute the things the Democrats used to cheat their way into the White House and some key Congressional seats this time, nor can a presidential executive order. They’ll yell and scream and jump up and down, possibly even send the FBI and the DOJ, but so long as we do not give in to despair they have not won.

Despair is their tool, and the overexcited headline is the weapon they use to impose it on us.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-29 16:18||   2021-01-29 16:18|| Front Page Top

#12 /\ Yes, an alledged Ga. republican. I've set aside an aged bottle of Glenmorangie Allta for the day he leaves office.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-01-29 16:28||   2021-01-29 16:28|| Front Page Top

#13  but when the baby keeps p*ssing in the bathwater, it's time to throw both out.

Bad metaphor, Mercutio. At that point you take out the baby, diaper it, and give it sponge baths until it learns to behave better. I used to be represented by John Boehner, who was fine for his time, but now I have Warren Davidson, Army Ranger, businessman, and Trump Republican. I’m still represented by Rob Portman in the Senate, but he will be replaced by a Trump Republican in two years, and Sherrod Brown (D-unions, age 68) is up for reelection in four. Despite all the cheating this time around, I’m not aware of serious complaints about how the election was run here — voter rolls were significantly cleaned up and photo ID required for in-person voting, for starters, and a voter had to send in a signed request to get the optional mail-in ballot in November,
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-29 16:32||   2021-01-29 16:32|| Front Page Top

#14 #7 T.W. do you mean portman? I'm new to OH.?
Posted by irish rage boy  2021-01-29 17:23||   2021-01-29 17:23|| Front Page Top

#15 I think the real lesson is Republican voters need to get better at judging candidates in the primaries so we don't need to hold our noses in the general.
Posted by rjschwarz 2021-01-29 17:28||   2021-01-29 17:28|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm just not as maternal as you, TW.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-01-29 17:46||   2021-01-29 17:46|| Front Page Top

#17 This is kind of like the Dunning-Kruger effect for elections.

The elites just stole an election for the highest office in the country and now they are threatening anyone who dares to point it out.

And here everyone is, talking about hypotheticals for and remedies for future ... elections
Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2021-01-29 21:21||   2021-01-29 21:21|| Front Page Top

#18 Free and fair elections are a thing of the past.
Free speech: in retreat
Rule of law: on life support

The remedy is obvious. Hint: it does not involve working within the system.
Posted by Gluck Ebbique9713 2021-01-29 22:47||   2021-01-29 22:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Here comes Patriot Act 2.0. Per ex-CIA analyst Philip Giraldi:

"A bill introduced by House intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff 'would take existing War on Terror legislation and simply amend it to say we can now do that within the U.S.'

"It would be combined with previous legislation, including former president Barack Obama’s infamous 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the military to indefinitely detain American citizens suspected of terrorism without a trial. Obama and Brennan also assumed an illegal and unconstitutional right to act as judge, jury and executioner-by-drone of American citizens overseas. Given those precedents, a bill like Schiff’s would free the national security community’s hands even more...."
Posted by Creth Hupereling8076 2021-01-29 22:53||   2021-01-29 22:53|| Front Page Top

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