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2020-09-29 Science & Technology

Israelis who fell sick with COVID-19 twice: Second time was worse

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-29 08:44|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 So, not a remission.
A strategic retreat prior to the secondary assault.

Posted by Skidmark 2020-09-29 09:41|| 2020-09-29 09:41|| Front Page Top

#2 ^It could be worse than that. According to
Sariol, A., & Perlman, S. (2020). Lessons for COVID-19 Immunity from Other Coronavirus Infections. Immunity, 53(2), 248-263.
In the only coronavirus where immune memory was actually tested, the "immune" persons have no symptoms - that far the secondary response works - but are infective.

Last, but not least - the first research group to report acquired immunity to covid 19 would have a nature paper and assured academic career.
So we can assume that many work on it. So far, nada.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-29 10:01|| 2020-09-29 10:01|| Front Page Top

#3 So if vaccines and herd immunity are not going to work, then the only path out is global, total, 100% lockdown for an extended period of time. That is not going to happen, so we will all just get it, over and over, until it kills us.

Posted by Glenmore 2020-09-29 10:17|| 2020-09-29 10:17|| Front Page Top

#4 ^Google Eli Lilly Covid 19 monoclonal

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-29 10:48|| 2020-09-29 10:48|| Front Page Top

#5 <speculation>

A first time Wuhan virus infection is asymptomatic or very mild common cold like in the vast majority of cases, but also highly contagious.

In a large cohort the infection does not confer immunity but makes the immune system overreact to a second infection, causing high mortality rates and permanent damage in survivors.

The observed pandemic is the second wave. The first wave started earlier and wasn't noticed.

The optimal prophylactic medication would be an antibody or antibody fragment that deactivates the virions by attaching to and blocking relevant structures but doesn't interact with the human immune system.

There's a danger that active immunization will trigger or increase the likelihood of an autoimmune reaction as the vaccine must resemble the virus in its interaction wit the immune system.

</speculation>

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2020-09-29 12:10|| 2020-09-29 12:10|| Front Page Top

#6 #5 Technical remark "antibody fragment" will not function in binding antigen. And even if it does, binding is just the beginning. And all the rest requires the constant part.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-29 12:45|| 2020-09-29 12:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Good Lord! Wonder if the space station has an extra bunk.

Posted by Vespasian Ebbereng3110 2020-09-29 17:34|| 2020-09-29 17:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Wonder if the space station has an extra bunk.

Good news: Yes.

Bad news: If the Dems win, they'll have the ISS on lockdown due to the Chinese Plague.

Posted by gorb 2020-09-29 18:00|| 2020-09-29 18:00|| Front Page Top

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