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2020-09-25 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Coronavirus may have 'mutated to spread faster': Scientists find strain circulating in second wave is more infectious

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Posted by Skidmark 2020-09-25 08:40|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 So, what are the hospitalization and death rates? They always seem to focus on infections.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-25 09:23|| 2020-09-25 09:23|| Front Page Top

#2 ^That depends on the country, isn't it?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-25 09:43|| 2020-09-25 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 And why should I believe them now?

Posted by AlanC 2020-09-25 10:42|| 2020-09-25 10:42|| Front Page Top

#4 That depends on the country, isn't it?

This is from Houston.
Very cosmopolitan.

Posted by Skidmark 2020-09-25 11:15|| 2020-09-25 11:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Cult. All the reasonability and believability of a cult to anyone looking at it from the outside.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-09-25 11:28|| 2020-09-25 11:28|| Front Page Top

#6 "Serious/Critical" has gone from just over 19k in mid-July to just over 14k today. Slow and steady decline. (Tabulated from Worldometers)

Posted by Bobby 2020-09-25 12:08|| 2020-09-25 12:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Besides, Houston (or Texas, anyway) didn't have a "second wave" - it had a later-than-the-east-coast first wave, peaking July 20. A little surge over the past two weeks - a bit early to call a second wave, doncha think? Since deaths are flat over the same period.

Show me the meme, and I'll show you the data.

Coronavirus Bell Curve

Posted by Bobby 2020-09-25 12:14|| 2020-09-25 12:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Coronavirus may have 'mutated to spread faster'

And maybe it didn't. This from the same cast of characters who can't decide if wearing a mask matters or not.

Posted by Clem 2020-09-25 12:33|| 2020-09-25 12:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Has anybody considered a clandestine release of an updated strain to affect the election paranoia? Hey, sometimes even if you are totally paranoid you could be right!

Posted by NoMoreBS 2020-09-25 13:05|| 2020-09-25 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Read the details people! This particualy strain is also becoming less deadly and less likely to have serious effects. Its becoming the common cold. This is Mueller's Ratchet at work. On top of that, if you exclude the mess in NY City caused by crappy nursing homes, and inept management, and the order to send infected patients to those nursing homes, the US Infection Death Rate is now scientifically accepted to be someone at 0.2% to 0.3%, with 0.26% being the most cited number. That is the percentage of death per infection.

Do NOT give any credibility to anyone citing the "Case Death Rate", which is the deaths per reported case (those who have sought medical care and are treated). That inflates the numbers 8 to 15 times the actual rate. Its used only to induce panic and fear, statistically its unimportant. The Infection Death Rate is the one society needs to use for planning.

Right now its roughly double a normal Flu season, and death or severe consequences are concentrated mainly in high risk groups like the elderly, and those with certain comorbidities (obesity, diabetes, lung or heart disease). THAT is where we need to put our efforts - protect those groups. We dont have enough money or resources to protect the unlikely ones, so it makes sense that we not worry about those under 65 who are relatively healthy. Put the most resources toward those who are most vulnerable, especially the populations of nursing homes, and the healthcare workers who are constantly exposed to higher viral loads.

Since we have no vaccine, the infection rate will be far higher than the usual number of Flu cases. So even with the same IDR, we would see more dying than is typical from the flu. So stop being suckers for an incompetent government and a panic inducing media.

Wear a mask around the vulnerable, practice good hygiene, eat right and exercise. And reopen the economy because the closures are doing far more damage at this point than COVID-19. Thats what the science supports.

Other than that, Stop with the conspiracy-mongering, you're being idiots. The science is enough to smack down the Armageddon Shutdown clowns.

Posted by Theager Borgia1057 2020-09-25 14:57|| 2020-09-25 14:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Yup.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-25 17:38|| 2020-09-25 17:38|| Front Page Top

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