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2020-06-18 India-Pakistan

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Posted by 3dc 2020-06-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 The Russians respect strength. Between the two Asian tigers, it still remains to be seen which one is more paper than tiger. It makes no strategic sense to aid cowards and losers in their fights.

We can't expect any nation to be committed towards us unless we project our strength in Asia.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-06-18 01:15|| 2020-06-18 01:15|| Front Page Top

#2 China and India might share a border on paper, but they're divided by a gigantic wall. The Himalayas. A real war is impossible; the logistics simply aren't there.

Let us know how Pakistani strength projection goes in Asia. America has tried it for decades and gotten nothing but wasted trillions and cargo plans full of coffins.

Posted by Maggie Poodle6767 2020-06-18 04:53|| 2020-06-18 04:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Let us know how Pakistani strength projection goes in Asia.

America has tried it for decades and gotten nothing but wasted trillions and cargo plans full of coffins.

Sov.U. in Afghanistan would be, IMO, a better example. USA has scruples.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-18 05:05|| 2020-06-18 05:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Pakistain projection was very effective until the ISI was not locally overruled by the Jama'ats they thought they controlled. That's what comes from using religious proxies to do the job of soldiers and assets. The ISI still had class, and was respected in most South Asian countries, especially the muslim ones. They solved problems for Presidents, and provided muscle to businesses against foreign enterprises. They even kept the local underworlds in discipline.

China shoved them all in the back seat, making their military and foreign agencies errand boys, shutting down some of their activities to keep favour with the UN. The Imraan govt and his military masters aren't in the game to make Pakistain something mighty anymore. They're all just managers of a business enterprise now.

As for India, its military is a caged lion, frustrated, itching to go. The pols have purposely kept it caged and neutered, because it could rapidly start solving all that's wrong in Asia, if let loose. It would hamper criminal enteprises and corruption across all Asia and that's not good for businesses, banking and the pols, who feed off businesses. An unbridled military in India is rightly feared by the pols to be capable of taking over and making India great again.

As long as it doesn't threaten their own domain, the Indian polity is content in letting a few grunts die and letting the chinese and pakis play around. We know that any money spent on muslims, any wells dug and projects built in islamic bizarro land, is a huge gamble. If our real estate, or the credibility of the leaders itself is threatened... they'll let the dogs loose. Russia knows this. They also know that then we won't need anybody's help.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-06-18 06:34|| 2020-06-18 06:34|| Front Page Top

#5 ^Drone, I assume Maggie meant China

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-18 07:11|| 2020-06-18 07:11|| Front Page Top

#6 and making India great again.

Again? I must have missed something cause I don't remember such a time, unless you're going back to the Mughals.

Posted by AlanC 2020-06-18 08:11|| 2020-06-18 08:11|| Front Page Top

#7 ^Who invented positional notation, AC?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-06-18 08:49|| 2020-06-18 08:49|| Front Page Top

#8 India fight corruption? They could start with the tech support scammers -- hundreds of those operations have been reported, and the Indian authorities do nothing.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2020-06-18 08:52|| 2020-06-18 08:52|| Front Page Top

#9 India says its soldiers were mutilated after being beaten to death by Chinese troops in brutal Himalayan border battle - and reveals the nail-embedded sticks used in brawl

Posted by Skidmark 2020-06-18 11:19|| 2020-06-18 11:19|| Front Page Top

#10 The Himalayas. A real war is impossible; the logistics simply aren't there.

Throwing rocks over the wall.

Posted by Skidmark 2020-06-18 11:43|| 2020-06-18 11:43|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ Let's hope it doesn't get to that, Skid.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-06-18 12:57|| 2020-06-18 12:57|| Front Page Top

#12 re: #7.

That's what I was getting at with the Mughal comment.

Pre-modern

Posted by AlanC 2020-06-18 14:20|| 2020-06-18 14:20|| Front Page Top

#13 The Mughals. What did they ever do? Building fucking tombs, man.

Posted by Maggie Poodle6767 2020-06-18 15:49|| 2020-06-18 15:49|| Front Page Top

#14 Actually, Skidmark, I was looking at photos of that area China took and where they put their troops in the low grounds by the river. The high grounds that India still holds are really very high.. More like lob over the peak high and watch the shockwaves echo down the river canyon... The Chinese positions don't look safe.

Posted by 3dc 2020-06-18 16:59|| 2020-06-18 16:59|| Front Page Top

#15 Skidmark, insults carry across well too. They echo back and forth in the mountains and are inescapable by the grunts. The intelligence has to be good of course. Sampler:

"Major Tong ! Does your mother still take in fish sellers to feed the family, you slimy cunt ?!"

"Ha Ha ! You bastard Major Chandra ! I was born in a vat ! Bot you were born in a hovel !!"

"Phukk you, you slant eyed, bat eater !"

"You drink urine and eat dung !"

"You have a sister named Dung ! Ha !"

Imagine a few hours of this, then the bricks begin to fly. I am not shitting you. I have seen men on both sides snigger at the rants received by their COs, and the amazing intel that must've gone into them.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-06-18 17:37|| 2020-06-18 17:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Seems like it would be easy to cut off any ground supply lines. I just don't see much of an advantage to China in this.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-06-18 17:55|| 2020-06-18 17:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Seems like it would be easy to cut off any ground supply lines. I just don't see much of an advantage to China in this.

If Xi gets going, I fully expect the Chinese military to not stop until it gets beyond the wastelands that are currently being contested. Whether it *can* get beyond those wastelands is a question that will be answered only in retrospect. Can the Chinese land a division in the Indian units' rear, cut the Indians off and protect and supply air-dropped Chinese forces from the air? That's not apparent yet. While this move would likely elicit a furious Indian response, the question is what anybody else would do about it. Would Trump jump in with US air assets? Does Xi think Trump would jump in? All of these what-ifs have to be factored in.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2020-06-18 19:46|| 2020-06-18 19:46|| Front Page Top

#18 Good time for a concerted Viet Namese/Philippine/Taiwan/Japan/Indo naval challenge

Posted by Frank G 2020-06-18 20:20|| 2020-06-18 20:20|| Front Page Top

#19 I just don't see much of an advantage to China in this.

Distraction for the population.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2020-06-18 23:20|| 2020-06-18 23:20|| Front Page Top

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