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2020-04-19 China-Japan-Koreas

Did Xi Jinping Deliberately Sicken the World?

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Posted by Clem 2020-04-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 We know Wuhan was quarantined from the rest of China but open to the World.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 03:47|| 2020-04-19 03:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Note the dates...

Someone needs to ask the anti-Trump fanatics exactly when he was to take all these preventative measures that they say he didn't take?

Are they telling us that he has super powers that can see the future now?

This whole "incident" has disgusted me on so many levels.

Posted by AlanC 2020-04-19 07:51|| 2020-04-19 07:51|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't know that you ever get a definitive smoking gun. But it appears increasingly obvious that somebody, some where along the line decided, 'it's gone way too far now, (intentionally or not) may as well make the most of it'.

Posted by Cesare 2020-04-19 08:09|| 2020-04-19 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 If not, he couldn't have done it much better.

Posted by Skidmark 2020-04-19 13:18|| 2020-04-19 13:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Something sent to me this morning:

The Chinese Communist Party has had a long term goal of world domination. Things were going their way under the previous three presidents as we fecklessly allowed our industrial base to be transferred to China. They were picking our pockets clean. Replacing the US as the dominant world power was the linchpin of this plan. Their strategy was to cripple the US economically which would cascade down to make it impossible for the US to be remain militarily dominant. This was the death of a thousand cuts. What if China were presented the opportunity to deliver a single crippling blow to wreck the American economy as well as that of the rest of the advanced world?

The Chinese delayed telling the world about the seriousness of the virus until they had scoured the world of PPE/medicines. In that time did they conclude that they could ride the virus as an accelerated vehicle for world domination? They had quarantined Wuhan and its province and stopped air travel throughout China while not interrupting international travel. For argument’s sake, let me say that they concluded that by strict domestic measures and the use of the world’s supply of PPE/medicines they could control their domestic outbreak while unleashing the virus on the rest of the world. The virus would spread around the world crippling the world’s economies while China would emerge largely undamaged and internationally ascendant. If so, the Chinese have killed ten times more Americans with this single blow than died on Dec 7, 1941 and Sep 11, 2001 and done more economic damage more precipitously than the Great Depression.

If so, this is a casus belli of the first order.

Gives new meaning to the old term, The Yellow Peril, coined by Kaiser Bill as Das Gelbe Gefahr.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-19 14:29|| 2020-04-19 14:29|| Front Page Top

#6 If so, this is a casus belli of the first order.

IMO, a bit too much

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 14:55|| 2020-04-19 14:55|| Front Page Top

#7 IMO, a bit too much

Ergo, Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were not casus belli?

Posted by Clem 2020-04-19 15:00|| 2020-04-19 15:00|| Front Page Top

#8 ^You're going to start a war with China - instead of quietly strangling it?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 15:04|| 2020-04-19 15:04|| Front Page Top

#9 Not too keen on starting a war anywhere, a war with China would not go well.

Unfortunately, the US and business interests sold their souls to China long ago. We, the US, made our beds....

Posted by Clem 2020-04-19 15:08|| 2020-04-19 15:08|| Front Page Top

#10 ^Surrender is an option?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 15:18|| 2020-04-19 15:18|| Front Page Top

#11 I don't know that you ever get a definitive smoking gun. But it appears increasingly obvious that somebody, some where along the line decided, 'it's gone way too far now, (intentionally or not) may as well make the most of it'.

Precisely.

Posted by charger 2020-04-19 15:48|| 2020-04-19 15:48|| Front Page Top

#12 The lawyers have now been called:

The Israeli NGO Shurat HaDin means to file a class action lawsuit against China in the upcoming days for its alleged negligence in treating and containing the coronavirus, N12 reported on Sunday.

Also.....

AT LEAST FOUR CLASS-ACTION SUITS FILED AGAINST CHINA, SEEKING TRILLIONS OVER CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK IN U.S.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-19 16:21|| 2020-04-19 16:21|| Front Page Top

#13 Cold War.
Contain, curtail, constrict.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-19 16:23|| 2020-04-19 16:23|| Front Page Top

#14 OT - In a similar vain, I see AG Barr put the kabosh on releasing files for those seeking damages from KSA form 9/11.

Posted by Clem 2020-04-19 16:26|| 2020-04-19 16:26|| Front Page Top

#15 The waters are muddied by the fact that we funded the research into bat viruses with a $3.5 million grant from NIH. That is awkward. But no doubt they concealed and lied and shut down at home while exporting the virus to everyone else. They knew how contagious it was. We need to methodically disengage with them, as painful as that may be and as long as that may take.

Posted by Albemarle Gray4543 2020-04-19 16:26|| 2020-04-19 16:26|| Front Page Top

#16 /\ ....methodically disengage with them, as painful as that may be and as long as that may take.

A couple of hundred years would be a very good start.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-19 16:28|| 2020-04-19 16:28|| Front Page Top

#17 They've pissed off every one of their neighbors. We have a containment strategy staring us in the face. We need to cut off their gulf oil access and peel off Russia. Do that, and bring our supply chains home or near-shore.

All it takes is political will.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-19 16:31|| 2020-04-19 16:31|| Front Page Top

#18 Kick em out of WTO for starters.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-19 16:31|| 2020-04-19 16:31|| Front Page Top

#19 #16 It only took 5 years to defeat the Empire of Japan. Reagan crushed the USSR in 8 years. It just depends on how serious we are prepared to be. To do nothing would be to cede leadership to a disgusting evil clique of monsters. In reality, this is not the worst thing the CCP has ever done. They are that evil. I am old. I won't live long enough to see the end game. But I sure don't want the US to become the CCP's bitch.

Posted by Albemarle Gray4543 2020-04-19 16:40|| 2020-04-19 16:40|| Front Page Top

#20 Speaking of Russian neighbors, some additional what if's, impacts, and predictions:

China was already starting to unravel due to severe demographic and environmental pressures, especially the lack of sufficient drinking water. 70% of China’s drinking water is polluted. 30% of that is toxic. The Chinese have been moving Han Chinese westward in the tens of millions to water sources in Tibet and Central Asia. The lack of water has resulted in China having to close down coal mines (coal mining uses a lot of water) and that has impacted on steel production.

COVID-19 will turn out to be China’s biological Chernobyl. It has accelerated Communist China’s unraveling.

What is the solution? War with Russia to regain Siberia and specifically Lake Baikal – the largest fresh water in the world (by volume). Baikal holds 40 % of Russia’s fresh water.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-19 16:41|| 2020-04-19 16:41|| Front Page Top

#21 I don't know that you ever get a definitive smoking gun.

That's the beauty of it.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-19 16:41|| 2020-04-19 16:41|| Front Page Top

#22 War with Russia to regain Siberia and specifically Lake Baikal

Regain?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 16:51|| 2020-04-19 16:51|| Front Page Top

#23 The lack of political will is the biggest problem we have. We stayed the course in the Cold War with the USSR from 1945 to 1989. But we can't even get started on a Cold War with China because there are too many powerful people and corporations in our country who have vested interests in business as usual. Once we overcome that problem, the war with China should be easy.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-19 16:53|| 2020-04-19 16:53|| Front Page Top

#24 #22 It's historically Chinese territory, just like Tibet and Italy.

Posted by Matt 2020-04-19 16:54|| 2020-04-19 16:54|| Front Page Top

#25 I'm ok with blankets and MRE's sent to the Russians.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-19 16:55|| 2020-04-19 16:55|| Front Page Top

#26 This one was either deliberate or taking advantage of the situation while still feeling ascendant. But a China that feels deliberately besieged is going to react as Japan did to the cutting off the sale of oil in 1941, to whit, Pearl Harbor.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-04-19 16:59|| 2020-04-19 16:59|| Front Page Top

#27 #26 On the other hand, Xi may (suddenly) die of coronavirus.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-19 17:05|| 2020-04-19 17:05|| Front Page Top

#28 On the other hand, Xi may (suddenly) die of coronavirus.

Complicated by lead poisoning.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-19 17:31|| 2020-04-19 17:31|| Front Page Top

#29 Figure out a surreptitious way to blow up / destroy the Three Gorges Dam and call it even.

Posted by Raj 2020-04-19 17:40|| 2020-04-19 17:40|| Front Page Top

#30 But a China that feels deliberately besieged is going to react as Japan did to the cutting off the sale of oil in 1941, to whit, Pearl Harbor.

Not unless we have a president who is as much of an idiot as Roosevelt. Maybe I shouldn't say that because the memories of Baraq Obama are still fresh.

But we can't go on the way we've been going. If we have to confront them it's better to do it now than to wait until they suck us dry.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-19 17:46|| 2020-04-19 17:46|| Front Page Top

#31 Chinese are extremely selfish and chauvinistic, both personally and at a civilizational level. Their actions flow from that.

Posted by Bubba Claing1437 2020-04-19 18:34|| 2020-04-19 18:34|| Front Page Top

#32 "The lack of water has resulted in China having to close down coal mines (coal mining uses a lot of water) and that has impacted on steel production."

Without steel,they can't build ships...and would have to swim to our shores...lol

Posted by crazyhorse 2020-04-19 23:19|| 2020-04-19 23:19|| Front Page Top

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