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2020-04-06 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

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Posted by trailing wife 2020-04-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 It's not gained any traction in the English-language press but multiple reports appeared a week ago in the Swedish-language local press that 40% of the initial 15 deaths in Sweden were Somali-Svensk ie Somali immigrants, who make up 0.6% of Sweden's population.

If my reading of the Swedish press is correct, Somalis also accounted for about 14% of the total infections in Sweden as of the beginning of the last week in March.

Putting these together yields a deaths-per-population rate for the Somali population that is about 100x that of the non-Somali Swedish population.

Do we know how many of the 400 additional deaths since last week were Somali-Swedes? We do know they are overwhelmingly concentrated in Stockholm, which is where the Somali-Swedish population is concentrated. Stockholm accounts 10% of Sweden's population but ca 70% of Saeden's coronavirus fatalities.

Based on anecdotal descriptions of Somali behavior during this crisis, it seems likely that Somali-Swedes continue to have orders of magnitude higher infection and death rates than Swedes overall.

Not to blame anyone or any group - every death is horrible, regardless of nationality or behavior - but we need to get beneath the scary numbers, disaggregate them by locality and neighborhood and every demographic attribute and then try to see the real drivers of the epidemic's spread.

It would seem logical for the Swedes to begin testing everyone in Jarva and the other Stockholm neighborhood's which reportedly contain this and other at-risk populations, and then to take appropriate, targeted measures as needed in those areas.

- Just my two kroner.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-06 00:46|| 2020-04-06 00:46|| Front Page Top

#2 all muslims pieces of shit , send them home to die.

Posted by Chris 2020-04-06 00:57|| 2020-04-06 00:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Do we know how many of the 400 additional deaths since last week were Somali-Swedes?

I suspect you are our subject specialist on this, Lex. Do you happen to have any links on the information you shared above?

Posted by trailing wife 2020-04-06 01:07|| 2020-04-06 01:07|| Front Page Top

#4 TW, my guess wold be that they are nastier that others, seems to be a going thing with this pandemic.

Posted by Chris 2020-04-06 01:47|| 2020-04-06 01:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Curiously, we've not seen a single mention of a Chinese gov't or military stricken with the virus.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-06 01:56|| 2020-04-06 01:56|| Front Page Top

#6 #1 Well, that would explain why Swedes are so phlegmatic about coronavirus.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-06 02:36|| 2020-04-06 02:36|| Front Page Top

#7 But Gov. Andrew Cuomo last month said healthcare providers in the state would be using the drug in combination with the antibiotic Zithromax, or azithromycin, for some last-ditch cases, based on potentially promising research.

Seems a few days late. Hydroxychloroquine is said to be the most effective during the early disease stage and avoids the need for ventilators. Almost like NY Government doesn't want to admit Trump may be right (again).

Posted by Shock Ominese5736 2020-04-06 02:48|| 2020-04-06 02:48|| Front Page Top

#8 About the tigers, wasn't there an article somewhere about the Chinese rounding up "pets" in Wuhan. You have to grow a virus in something be it a cell line or a host. House cats have been used as lab animals before, and this begins to sound like a badB-movie.

Posted by Vinegar Spolusing6485 2020-04-06 08:01|| 2020-04-06 08:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Wells Fargo ($10 Billion Dollars allotted to them) is already out of SBA money for the small business payroll protection program (in only a few hours), leaving a massive number of small businesses in deep dodo.

Posted by Phomoper Lumplump4826 2020-04-06 08:16|| 2020-04-06 08:16|| Front Page Top

#10 #3 do you have any links?

In Swedish, here's one of many articles that leads with the "6 out of 15" statistic. It also includes a discussion of cultural aspects (cf. paragraph about "kukturella aspekter"), also a quote from a local Swedish Muslim named Jihan Mohamed, and that appears to have been written by someone from the Swedish Muslim community.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-06 09:41|| 2020-04-06 09:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Until we have derailed breakdowns of infection and fatalities by sub-region, neighborhood and ethnicity, we cannot say that Sweden's approach is not the wise approach.

It may well be the case that the spike we are now seeing in Sweden is concentrated in a small number of at-risk demographics groups clustered in a few districts or neighborhoods in central Stockholm.

We don't know for sure because apparently the Swedish authorities do not disaggregate their health stats by ethnicity or race.

But if those press reports from a week ago are correct, then this behavioral + demographic explanation of the trend in Sweden is the most likely one for Sweden's -- really, Stockholm's - recent COVID spike.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-06 10:00|| 2020-04-06 10:00|| Front Page Top

#12 * detailed

Posted by Lex 2020-04-06 10:01|| 2020-04-06 10:01|| Front Page Top

#13 I’m guessing that doctors in NYC are prescribing HCQ to more patients earlier in the disease cycle and that is contributing to the reduced hospitalizations.

Posted by Remoteman 2020-04-06 12:29|| 2020-04-06 12:29|| Front Page Top

#14 In NY there are probably dozens of different treatment regimes, some using HCQ for mild cases, some using HCQ only for serious cases, some using it for prophylactic, some with zinc some without zinc. Probably a few cases where they are still enlisting patients for clinical trials.

NY is truly the nation's hot spot for the Wu. About 45% of the USA Wu deaths are from NY. LA, MI and NJ together are about 25%

Posted by lord garth 2020-04-06 14:48|| 2020-04-06 14:48|| Front Page Top

#15 1 Grecian Formula: Quarantine all of them

2 Snark I read y'day - Michigan shouldn't worry. They'll lose out to Iowa and Wisconsin, then drop out of the Top 20.

3 De Blasio is the one who needs to be ventilated

4. Phillipines - no 9 deaths since the cops shot a guy who refused to wear a mask.

Posted by Mercutio 2020-04-06 15:26|| 2020-04-06 15:26|| Front Page Top

#16 apparently at his press conf today, Gov Cuomo said somthing positive about the hcq + antibiotic treatment regime

can't find the transcript - just people tweeting about it

Posted by lord garth 2020-04-06 16:37|| 2020-04-06 16:37|| Front Page Top

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