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2020-03-11 Home Front: Politix
Bernie: Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried
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Posted by Fred 2020-03-11 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6507 views ]  Top

#1 Giggle.

This retread can't even update his cliches. Even his pseudo-intellectual "insights" are recycled garbage from the 1960s.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-11 00:40||   2020-03-11 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 You can laugh all you want Lex, but that's what his voters believe.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-11 02:39||   2020-03-11 02:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Perhaps, but I suspect that would come as something of a surprise the long line of megalomaniac millionaire socialists of the 20th century.
Posted by Cesare 2020-03-11 07:39||   2020-03-11 07:39|| Front Page Top

#4 "Real Socialism"(tm) can't be tried because of basic human nature - Power has a tendency to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The writers of our Constitution took that in to account, a government conducted by people who by nature tend towards power and corruption. Separation of power, checks and balances, decentralization as much as possible. You accept inefficiencies and some injustices to preserve liberty and avoid even greater injustices.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-03-11 08:08||   2020-03-11 08:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Ditto, P2k.

Everyone seems to forget the need for the "New Soviet Man."

From each according to his ability to each according to his need.

And who defines your ability and need???
Posted by AlanC 2020-03-11 09:16||   2020-03-11 09:16|| Front Page Top

#6 And who defines your ability and need???

The elites that have all the corrupting power.
Posted by DarthVader 2020-03-11 09:23||   2020-03-11 09:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Have you ever watched the movie The Gods Must Be Crazy(1980)? A small group of Bushmen are disrupted by the "Evil Thing", a glass soda bottle discarded by a passing small plane, as they start to fight over something that only one person can use.
Posted by magpie 2020-03-11 10:21||   2020-03-11 10:21|| Front Page Top

#8 *makes clicky noises*

Yeah...I saw it :-)
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-11 10:57||   2020-03-11 10:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried Succeded

Fixed it for you.
Posted by Iblis 2020-03-11 12:11||   2020-03-11 12:11|| Front Page Top

#10 We saw it and I noted to my kids at the time as why communism/socialism doesn't work in modern non-communal, non-familial societies. Of course, that opinion was not being taught in their schools and it took this wonderful little film to drive the understanding home.

A human's nature of wanting to better themselves by possession (read good shelter, food, tools etc.) destroys the whole concept of such economic egalitarianism beliefs.

The 'Evil Things' are what everyone wants, but nobody gets, in pure Socialism.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2020-03-11 12:12||   2020-03-11 12:12|| Front Page Top

#11 The founders never dreamed of the gaming of the system that lawyers and those of their ilk would do in later years, when they developed the Constitution.

People who game the system and are criminals used to be a few percent, who were considered deviants. Now the deviants are reaching a percentage critical mass.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2020-03-11 12:16||   2020-03-11 12:16|| Front Page Top

#12 ...which is why they put in life time appointments for federal judges, noting that 'life' was generally a lot shorter on the average then. What we have learned by practice is that you can not have a republic with one entire branch de facto independent of repeated 'consent of the governed'.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-03-11 14:22||   2020-03-11 14:22|| Front Page Top

#13 P2K, I feel your pain, but I only know of four currently practiced ways to decide who a judge is:
1- Appointment for life of "Article III" federal judges(the Constitution actually says "during good behavior" but whatever)
2- Appointment of "Article I" federal judges for a limited term subject to possible reappointment by a higher court (e.g., federal bankruptcy judges at the end of their term get reviewed by the Court of Appeals in their area, which in turn solicits opinions from lawyers who practice in front of a particular bankruptcy judge
3- Popular election for a limited term, which in the real world means that the judges have to ask for money for their re-election campaigns. And most of that money comes from plaintiffs' lawyers who practice in front of those judges.
4- Appointment by the governor of a state, e.g. Washington State.
Got a preference?
Posted by Matt 2020-03-11 15:06||   2020-03-11 15:06|| Front Page Top

#14 So let me just ask, if "real socialism" is such a wonderful thing, WHY in the entirety of human history has it never been tried? Is there anything else good that has NEVER been tried?
Posted by Tom 2020-03-11 16:42||   2020-03-11 16:42|| Front Page Top

#15 The problem with real socialism is you can't get enough unicorn farts to make it work, the starving folks keep eating the unicorns.
Posted by rjschwarz 2020-03-11 16:48||   2020-03-11 16:48|| Front Page Top

#16 It’s the same ole “It will work when we do it! You’ll see! We will get it right this tilme!”
Posted by CrazyFool 2020-03-11 17:05||   2020-03-11 17:05|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ Yup
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-11 17:39||   2020-03-11 17:39|| Front Page Top

#18 Not Bee

*dollar in jar*
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-03-11 19:32||   2020-03-11 19:32|| Front Page Top

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