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2020-03-05 Home Front: Culture Wars
Trump Solves Problem Caused by Obama-Era Regulation Which Was Stalling Ability to Test for Coronavirus
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-05 04:12|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6517 views ]  Top

#1 Given the deep kickback corruption of FDA cronies. Not surprised. Thank you Don.
Posted by Woodrow 2020-03-05 06:43||   2020-03-05 06:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Trump says coronavirus is 'very mild', believes infected patients can get better without seeing a doctor, insists the WHO 3.4% fatality rate is 'false' and accuses the Dems of 'weaponizing' virus against him
Posted by Skidmark 2020-03-05 12:01||   2020-03-05 12:01|| Front Page Top

#3 The Anti-Trumpers are trying desperately to Katrina him over this. Won't work.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-05 12:08||   2020-03-05 12:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Skidmark

I think "on a hunch" is not an excuse for ignoring science.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 15:30||   2020-03-05 15:30|| Front Page Top

#5 ^Depends on whose hunch.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-05 15:38||   2020-03-05 15:38|| Front Page Top

#6 no it doesn't
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 16:58||   2020-03-05 16:58|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes it does, read some history of Science.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-05 17:03||   2020-03-05 17:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Direct that advice to the president.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 17:20||   2020-03-05 17:20|| Front Page Top

#9 ^Trump is right and the political bureaucrats in WHO (is your daddy) are completely wrong - because viruses can't count.
And if you don't understand that I'm talking about - it's because you don't understand scientific thinking.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-05 17:25||   2020-03-05 17:25|| Front Page Top

#10 Trump doesn't even understand the difference between corona and influenza. I guess I stick to the information the German Robert Koch Institut provides.

And after some research nobody seems to be able to come up with the regulation the Obama administration supposedly changed (and Trump reversed).
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 17:35||   2020-03-05 17:35|| Front Page Top

#11 #10 Trump doesn't even understand the difference between corona and influenza

Uh huh. Who told you that? Aren't you supposed to smart and conservative and stuff? Corona is a beer. Coronavirus is a respiratory virus
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 18:15||   2020-03-05 18:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Influenza A virus (several subtypes)
Coronavirus SARS CoV 2.

NOT "corona flu" as Trump calls it.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 18:27||   2020-03-05 18:27|| Front Page Top

#13 a 15 second search found this:
1) Trump Administration Reverses Obama-Era Regulation Responsible For Coronavirus Testing Roadblock

which leads to
2) Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Issues New Policy to Help Expedite Availability of Diagnostics (Official FDA link)

C'mon, try harder
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 18:33||   2020-03-05 18:33|| Front Page Top

#14 This is a link to an actual FDA policy change.

Please link to the policy the Obama Administration is alleged to have changed.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 18:39||   2020-03-05 18:39|| Front Page Top

#15 I'm not doing any more research for your butthurt salve:
"In light of this public health emergency, this guidance is being implemented without prior public comment because the FDA has determined that prior public participation for this guidance is not feasible or appropriate (see section 701(h)(1)(C)(i) of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FD& Act) and 21 CFR 10.115(g)(2)). This guidance document is immediately in effect, but it remains subject to comment in accordance with the Agency’s good guidance practices."
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 18:44||   2020-03-05 18:44|| Front Page Top

#16 Trump blamed Obama for a policy change that is supposed to have hurt the development of testing kits.

But that policy change is nowhere to be found and even Republicans can't find it.

"According to the FDA, draft guidance for laboratory-developed tests was proposed in 2014, to replace a “policy of enforcement discretion” with regard to cracking down on such tests, where the FDA sometimes chose to intervene and other times not. The framework ultimately was not implemented."

LINK
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 18:52||   2020-03-05 18:52|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm running a deadpool on which kills more people, the virus or the precautions.

So far the virus has an early lead, but we haven't starting shutting off services or fire-bomb San Francisco yet.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-03-05 18:53||   2020-03-05 18:53|| Front Page Top

#18  Trump blamed Obama for a policy change that is supposed to have hurt the development of testing kits.

But that policy change is nowhere to be found and even Republicans can't find it.


President Obama openly ran his administration with his phone and pen, not bothering to wait for Congress to pass actual laws in many cases, and his bureaucrats effected behavioural changes in their targets by issuing “Dear Colleagues” letters advising them of what was expected of them. So in many cases there are no actual issued regulations to look up in the records, just an observable change out in the real world where non-compliance led to harassment from the authorities — to include the IRS. Three examples that spring to mind are the slow-walking of TEA Party and pro-Israel IRS applications for registration as non-profit groups along with a variety of harassments aimed at the leaders of the groups; the institution at colleges and universities of new definitions of s3xual harassment, and the procedures for in-house trials and expulsions of male students based on them; and, oddly, the definition of even ditches and transient mud puddles on farms as bodies of water under the jurisdiction of whichever federal department regulates public lakes and rivers, requiring farmers’ compliance with all the regulations around actions and record-keeping, no matter how absurd.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-03-05 19:41||   2020-03-05 19:41|| Front Page Top

#19 My wife rarely ever comments on politics. She's a medical doctor. First time I heard her comment about Trump remarks: "That's irresponsible." And she said it with a look our adult kids still fear.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 19:56||   2020-03-05 19:56|| Front Page Top

#20 Let me guess: "Trump said the infection was a hoax"? Bullshit. He said the Democrats were invoking it as their #4? #5? Hoax. You should know more before you opine
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:04||   2020-03-05 20:04|| Front Page Top

#21 There's a reason I'm "generally" hesitant to opine on Germany's particular internal politics: I don't live there, don't speak the language, and am only impacted by how they impact me and mine. My own ignorance would expose itself should someone like you chime in. Perhaps...
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:08||   2020-03-05 20:08|| Front Page Top

#22 First of all, leave politics out of this. Leave Obama or Democrats out of this. You are in charge. The buck stops with you. You don't have to say much. Dr. Anthony Fauci seems to be a very competent guy. Let him do the explaining.

Second, do not contradict numbers put out by scientists who calculated existing cases, because you feel different "on a hunch". Just don't do it.

Third, if you speak out, do it in plain, easy to understand English, not incoherent rambling that can be misunderstood easily.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 20:11||   2020-03-05 20:11|| Front Page Top

#23 Thank you for YOUR OPINION
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:13||   2020-03-05 20:13|| Front Page Top

#24 FrankG, you are always welcome to comment on Germany. Quite often, a perspective from "outside" is very educating.

I've lived and worked in the U.S. for quite some time and I follow everything that happens in the U.S. very closely, not only because we do a lot of business with the U.S.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 20:14||   2020-03-05 20:14|| Front Page Top

#25 and your commentary and opinion is always welcome as well.
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:19||   2020-03-05 20:19|| Front Page Top

#26 Thank you. Isn't it always opinion?
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 20:26||   2020-03-05 20:26|| Front Page Top

#27 not if links used?
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:32||   2020-03-05 20:32|| Front Page Top

#28 Ultimately, you're probably right, depending on veracity and source of links...
have a good night. I'm watching college basketball, which is truth in scoring :-)
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-05 20:35||   2020-03-05 20:35|| Front Page Top

#29 enjoy... btw one of the best basketball team in Germany is Bayern Munich ;-)
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-05 20:36||   2020-03-05 20:36|| Front Page Top

#30 https://www.zdnet.com/article/data-science-vs-the-hunch-what-happens-when-the-figures-contradict-your-gut-instinct/
Posted by bbrewer126 2020-03-05 22:35||   2020-03-05 22:35|| Front Page Top

#31 Truly, bbrewer126.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-03-05 23:32||   2020-03-05 23:32|| Front Page Top

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