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2020-01-02 Afghanistan
Authored By America, The Doha Plot To Arm The Afghan Taliban
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Posted by trailing wife 2020-01-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top
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#1 Until the 1970s, Afghan women, dressed in miniskirts, breathing in the air of liberty, upholding their personal individualism, walked the streets of Kabul, into offices, schools and universities.

And, in the countryside?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-01-02 07:28||   2020-01-02 07:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Very clever use of facts and rhetoric to deceive. It is rare to find such talent in the muzz. Anyway, the truth is, some shady intelligence inputs and media hype has propagated the idea that the taliban leadership is somehow now based in Doha.

That is a lie.

The control is still in Quetta. In 2010, when the taliban intensified attacks on NATO forces, the 'Stain realized they could no longer be overtly associated with them. Qatar provides all jihadi organizations these services : banking, money laundering, access to arms merchants and 'neutral' meeting spaces with interlocutors and lackeys of govts. This became an efficient solution in 2013, when they made a 'taliban daftar' in Doha the real estate for taliban was provided by a Umayr al-Nuaymi, known facilitator of jihad. Pakistain could not host them overtly and keep clearing the watchdog lists. Pak still had to receive aid for 'fighting extremism' and play victim of taliban, for the US.

The democratic Afghan govt, and other sympathetic agencies submitted all proofs, actionable intel to Washington. They tried to convince the US to stop negotiating with taliban and instead arrest any elements in Doha, to sanction Qatar and further investigate Pakistain's Quetta Shura. But that slick bastard Obama was determined to subvert and commandeer American resources for his muslim brothers. Condoleeza Rice was sensible and had understood these dynamics and knew the implications of what was happening, but that bitch Hillary was in her place now and just wouldn't listen to us. We gave up on the US and continued going after them ourselves, but covert actions in a hostile nuke-state can only be so effective. Recently, Akhundazada's brother bought the ticket meant for him. Trump has been great for morale, and America could do this so much better; but you have to know where to get 'em. Quetta.

By 2013, the taliban knew they had America hooked. Even after Obama, they could keep their immediate CIA benefactors and Pakistain pleased with proceeds from the opium trade. In connivance with corrupt Afghan bureaucrats and ministers they could feed the US forces any intel they wanted. Have them kill civilians if they wanted, have them use their UAVs to take out rival factions, even militia allied with NATO, or just goat herders for upping numbers. And the taliban made money for all their friends, they cleared large settlements south of Kabul for illegal mining, they enslaved farmers, civilians and took over state resources for production and smuggling of heroin hydrochloride. Obama played up an anti-drug angle when some NGOs and activists came close to exposing it all, with opium bans and much kabuki. Pakistain hosted the taliban throughout this and Quetta, Balochistan became a fortress meanwhile. Peshawar in Pakistain was the conduit for hawala transactions to shell companies in European countries, after the Herat and Helmand businessmen had to shut shop from 2010-2013. They continued paying out 'the cut' to shell cos, 170 companies were identified by international agencies with billions in A/cs that lie unclaimed. Who owned these ? How many deepStatists and how many Paki generals and ministers got rich before 2016, who knows ?

It was not expected that a Donald Trump would arrive and rattle the convenient, by now well-oiled machine. Such an anomaly could not have been foreseen by the deepState. But after 2016, when faced by a man who dared to seek facts, they panicked. There was a tying of loose ends that appeared as an escalation in the war effort. If you remember, in 2016 there was a news about the 'ISIS destroying tonnes of Afghani opium'. The five sided box, Democrat senators and their bureaucrats, the MSM owners - all have tried to mislead Trump from the beginning about the taliban, to obfuscate the Pakistain connection and the real reason the taliban still thrive. Even down to just where in the fuck they are.

That Doha is the new base for taliban leaders is just one more of their deceptions. Qatar would never base them there. Taliban shadow figures may turn up in Doha occasionally; they may even have some burnout ex-warlords playing the real leaders, showing up at the 'Taliban Talks' in expensive Doha hotels. But the real leadership, those who ideologically control the jihad are still in Quetta, some in Karachi. They provide the tanzeems, the markaz that trains the grunts, they provide the fodder, the guidance, the intelligence, logistics, connections with enablers. There's a reason. If they leave Quetta, other factions will gain power and start claiming the leadership. There is a complex dynamic of calvin-ball and islamic assholery in this too. Paki jihadis do not wish to be led by pashtun outsiders; they think of themselves as the legitimate leaders who fight for Allan, and pashtuns as idiot nomads who fight for idiocy, meant to be used. The ISI with great difficulty gets them to get along with Afghan taliban.

I repeat. There is nothing in Doha. Just a facade, an 'Emirate Office'. It legitimizes taliban rule, provides some funding and lends a safe cover to laundering and investment activities for taliban. It misdirects the US from the real fight by providing an address and promise of negotiability. You think 'At least we know they're here, our negotiations have brought them to this table'.

The leadership was always in Quetta, protected by a piddly Pakistain army and Obama appointees. And they cannot be negotiated with for anything. Their aim is to squeeze kaffir resources, kill as many of you as they can, and demonstrate the futility of fighting against islam to America. They shall continue to die in vast numbers if their controllers tell them it's working. The whole world witnesses uneducated tribal mujaheddin fight advanced 1st world armies and prevail. And this is enough for them. Enough for Qatar, enough for Turkey, Pakistain, Iran,the Arabs...

"We have sucked America down to our own hell for 18 years ! There is despair and frustration in them over us constantly. They came here for revenge. We must keep them here, inshaallah until they give up in shame and run. Let it be their Vietnam, even worse !"

When you sit with barely conversant, gruff kaffir-killers at the table, when you see to their comforts and sensibilities, your personnel standing guard in the plush Doha hotels, that is their victory. Mullah Baradar, who should've died in a dank cell sits here and faces you like a man and the summbitch knows even if he dies now, his war is won.



And now I'm off for a drink.
Posted by Dron66046 2020-01-02 12:16||   2020-01-02 12:16|| Front Page Top

#3 And now I'm off for a drink.

Enjoy. That'd be difficult if you were in Quetta.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-01-02 13:33||   2020-01-02 13:33|| Front Page Top

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