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2019-12-30 Home Front: Politix

Tulsi Gabbard is positioning herself to pick up the pieces after the Dems implode in the 2020 election

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Gabbard has a lot wrong with her, her anti-Second Amendment stance being one of them.

However I greatly respect her because she served. I respect her because she wants no more wars. I respect her because other than Trump, she is the only pro-American candidate on all sides.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-12-30 00:42|| 2019-12-30 00:42|| Front Page Top

#2 She's a flake, but I agree that it's enormously useful to have a Democrat calling BS on other Dems and on the Uniparty and their global grifters.

But really, someone needs to give her a better tagline than her robotically bleated, "regime change wars." Not relevant anymore.

Say something intelligent about China or Russia. Start reading a bit more. Expand your knowledge of world events, also your vocabulary.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 01:09|| 2019-12-30 01:09|| Front Page Top

#3 One of the major troubles with the current Democratic party is on display right now. Tulsi Gabbard has my respect (never my vote, but my respect). But she's only a member of the House, and not one who has served for particularly long either. The fact that she, with her limited qualifications and low name recognition, is forming her own faction within the party, is a sign of the decay with the Democrats. This goes even more so for the mayor of South Bend, Pete Buttieg. I don't dispute that successful mayors of major cities (even just major regional cities like, say, Boise or Des Moines) shouldn't be disregarded in the political process. But mayor of a small town to President is not a jump that somebody should make with a great deal more experience (like being a Lieutenant General, or a CEO, or something).

Posted by Vernal Hatrick 2019-12-30 08:37|| 2019-12-30 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Herb called it - she has integrity even if she is on the wrong side of a number of issues. Harks back to the days when you could respect a political opponent. She'd fit so much better as an Indie than a Donk.

Posted by Mercutio 2019-12-30 08:40|| 2019-12-30 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 "But really, someone needs to give her a better tagline than her robotically bleated, "regime change wars." Not relevant anymore."

What's wrong with that? It's very relevant. I don't find it robotic at all, it's a slogan that needs to be hammered home at every opportunity. It's not America's job to meddle in hostile foreign lands.

If the Dems take the White House in 2020, you can expect a 180 and right back to making war after war, cheerleaded by the New York Times and the rest of the lying press, who will soberly explain that this is all necessary for national security interests that they can't disclose right now.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-12-30 10:39|| 2019-12-30 10:39|| Front Page Top

#6 No exaggeration intended, its almost as if one needs to be a Republican nowadays if one actually loves this country. Tulsi has no chance within the Democratic party.

Posted by Crusader 2019-12-30 12:10|| 2019-12-30 12:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Give it up, Hoib. No one here is "meddling" in the ChiComs' decision to make Xi leader-for-life, or in Russian leadership's decision to keep puttin' Putin in the big chair. Nobody. That debate is dead.

What we need people like this person and others who would lecture us on foreign policy to do now is articulate how we will contain China's rise, extract ourselves from Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iraq, come to an accommodation with Russia that suits our and their vital national interests, and rein in Iran's mischief without being dragged into yet another land war in Asia.

Mouthing the phrase "regime change bad!" ad infinitum doesn't begin to answer any of the above questions.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 12:19|| 2019-12-30 12:19|| Front Page Top

#8 It's a damn good start in the right direction.

All of the problems you listed were caused by meddling. We meddled in the 1996 Russian election that led directly to the rise of Putin. We stupidly admitted China to the WTO. We decided wars in Afghan/Pak/Iraq were a great ideas that were going to turn out well.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-12-30 13:07|| 2019-12-30 13:07|| Front Page Top

#9 All of the problems you listed were caused by meddling.

"Meddling" - pshaw. You're just as Amero-centric as the lefties you scorn.

We don't drive, and we haven't driven, events in Russia. Ever.

Putin's rise was engineered by his FSB pals and their cronies/wannabe oligarchs. We had NOTHING whatsoever to do with those internal machinations of the Russian elite.

Putin's subsequent broad popularity among Russians - corrupt and brutal though he is, the man pays their pensions in full and on time, and stands up for his nation - is what more than any other factor has allowed him to keep his grip on power.

Again, we have NOTHING to do with any of these outcomes - for good or for ill.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 13:14|| 2019-12-30 13:14|| Front Page Top

#10 #9 Well, the 1998 Kosovo war helped.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-30 13:15|| 2019-12-30 13:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Not much. After the polnyi bardak - Russkii for shitshow - of Yeltsin's drunken misrule, the Russian nation needed a strong hand. The only functioning, coherent institution in that country was the security services. If not Putin, then some other security figure inevitably would have emerged.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 13:20|| 2019-12-30 13:20|| Front Page Top

#12 They felt threatened. When threatened by an outsider, Russians close ranks and support a strong leader.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-30 13:25|| 2019-12-30 13:25|| Front Page Top

#13 Voting present is a cop out. It's an admission that she is too timid to take a stand one way or the other, a lack of backbone. It's a failure to represent her constituents. It's the kind of thing that Obama would do to deliberately obfuscate what his real agenda was.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-12-30 13:31|| 2019-12-30 13:31|| Front Page Top

#14 Our Russia policy for the last 25+ years has been a carnival of errors.

Worst of all is the neo-McCarthyism and denunciation culture that is making it nearly impossible for young Russia scholars to call BS on our foreign policy elites' stupidity and mistakes.

I don't agree with his general worldview, but cf. the great Princeton scholar Stephen F. Cohen for more on this disturbing and ultimately self-defeating new tendency of destroying the academic or media career of anyone who says anything remotely construed as not sufficiently anti-Russian. This madness will destroy this nation.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 13:36|| 2019-12-30 13:36|| Front Page Top

#15 I think Tulsi Gabbard is the one to watch for, in the near future. A quiet determination, the controlled intensity of the well-managed loon, and charisma. That, and she is an image as far from Democrat level crazy you can get without eschewing any of their socialist dogma. I think what she did is a sign of a useless person, but she could become America's most favorite useless person for 2024.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-30 14:28|| 2019-12-30 14:28|| Front Page Top

#16 Dron, in 2024, AOC will be old enough to run for president. Watch for it.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2019-12-30 14:35|| 2019-12-30 14:35|| Front Page Top

#17 Tulsi needs to hit the Peloton before she runs for POTUS

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 14:37|| 2019-12-30 14:37|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't agree with his general worldview, but cf. the great Princeton scholar Stephen F. Cohen for more on this disturbing and ultimately self-defeating new tendency of destroying the academic or media career of anyone who says anything remotely construed as not sufficiently anti-Russian.

Meanwhile China, the far greater threat, gets a pass.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-12-30 14:38|| 2019-12-30 14:38|| Front Page Top

#19 No connection of course, Abu

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-30 14:54|| 2019-12-30 14:54|| Front Page Top

#20 Nope. No connection at all. Nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-30 14:59|| 2019-12-30 14:59|| Front Page Top

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