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2019-12-11 -Land of the Free

Virginia Dems Cave on Confiscation as 2A Sanctuaries Expand

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Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-11 08:58|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 Third Manassas averted.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-11 09:48|| 2019-12-11 09:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Instead, they will include a provision to allow Virginians to keep the firearms they already own.

Still shutting off future access to members of the unorganized militia (IAW Title X)

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-11 10:02|| 2019-12-11 10:02|| Front Page Top

#3 Until next time.....

Posted by Mullah Richard 2019-12-11 11:03|| 2019-12-11 11:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Take your registration and shove it.

Posted by swksvolFF 2019-12-11 11:09|| 2019-12-11 11:09|| Front Page Top

#5 You all will be criminals.

Sorry, Bob. This is your 3rd parking ticket. Under the Red Flag law, anyone showing a lack of personal judgement and/or posing a danger to the citizens of the commonwealth or their property shall not be permitted to posses firearms. So hand 'em over!

Posted by SteveS 2019-12-11 11:19|| 2019-12-11 11:19|| Front Page Top

#6 felony to own an ar15.
felons can't own guns.
therfore - ar15's are confiscated.

Its all just good common sense.
/sarc

Posted by flash91 2019-12-11 11:29|| 2019-12-11 11:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Jersey City has tough gun laws I think ? Two crazy black terrorists just killed a 9mm and taser wielding cop and unarmed civs with hi-power ARs there.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-11 12:54|| 2019-12-11 12:54|| Front Page Top

#8 If they used AR-15's, they aren't high powered. Nothing more than suped up .22's. AR-10's and other mid size and up calibers might be worthy of high powered. Much rather be shot by AR-15 than .30-06 or 7.62x51mm.

Posted by Silentbrick 2019-12-11 13:22|| 2019-12-11 13:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Ever seen somebody shot by M-16, Brick?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-11 13:30|| 2019-12-11 13:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Anything Scary-Looking will be considered high powered. Just as they are considered Assault Weapons.

Posted by CrazyFool 2019-12-11 13:53|| 2019-12-11 13:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Only in footage, same as everything up to and including .50. Getting shot by anything is bad but there is a serious power difference between the small intermediate and the .30 cal stuff. I'm also well aware of which one is more likely to penetrate body armor. And I've seen first hand what .30-06 and other rounds do to game animals

Posted by Silentbrick 2019-12-11 14:12|| 2019-12-11 14:12|| Front Page Top

#12 SilentBrick it depends. From a 20-22" barrel the 5.56 tumbles and breaks up and does a horrible amount of damage. From the shorter M-4 barrels it just makes a small puncture wound as it can't reach the speeds needed for the designed damage.

From the first Gulf War, I have seen wounds where a guy was hit in the upper left arm and the bullet tumbled along the bones and exited out his right shoulder. Another got shot in the gut, the 5.56 went through the intestines, hit the spine, broke in two and did one and a half rotations for each piece through his abdominal cavity. Lost 2/3rds of his small intestine.

I would rather get shot with a 7.62 personally than a 5.56 from a full sized M-16.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-11 14:15|| 2019-12-11 14:15|| Front Page Top

#13 5.56 long tumbles.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-11 14:25|| 2019-12-11 14:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Yes, but most of these mass shooters are using carbine length AR-15's, with probably FMJ. If they are using hunting ammo, the damage it'll do is more, but there's still a large power difference between a 5.56 round and a 7.62 one. And in the event of an incident, I don't plan on using FMJ rounds until I'm out of the other kind. My home defense carbine is loaded with .308 150 gr core lokt soft points. So you'll pardon my skepticism that you'd rather be shot by a 7.62 caliber round in that case, than a 5.56 one. Same goes with my M-1 Garand, only it's 220 gr. (I know the issues with that, but I feel that if I'd had to shoot more than 20 times, I'm serious trouble anyway.) The only AR-15 I have is a DCM competition one, with a 20" heavy barrel. I don't plan on using that for any troubled times as it weights 16.5 pounds

Posted by Silentbrick 2019-12-11 15:02|| 2019-12-11 15:02|| Front Page Top

#15 large power difference between a 5.56 round and a 7.62

Momentum m*v, energy m*v^2/2

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-11 15:29|| 2019-12-11 15:29|| Front Page Top

#16 There is, and if I need the rounds to penetrate walls with books, furniture or the concrete blocks ME homes are made of, 7.62 is my round of choice any day. Or a 50 Cal.... :D

Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-11 17:27|| 2019-12-11 17:27|| Front Page Top

#17 I live in a log house with 10 to 12" dia logs. What shoots in there, stays in there. Heh.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2019-12-11 17:35|| 2019-12-11 17:35|| Front Page Top

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