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Fox News pollster Braun Research misrepresented impeachment poll: analysis

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-13 02:10|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 All polls are fake news created by various versions of the Legacy Infotainment Enterprises. Got to fill air time and print columns with something.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-10-13 08:07|| 2019-10-13 08:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Like "anonymous" sources in "news" reports. You can always find someone who will say anything. Or just make it up as you go along..

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-10-13 08:39|| 2019-10-13 08:39|| Front Page Top

#3 We are now officially in the Post-Truth Phase of our history.

The polls we're shown are BS.
The stories we read are BS.
Real stories don't make it to print or pixel.
Disinformation is everywhere.
Words have lost their usual meanings.
We are closer to a war with Russia than at any time since 1962, and we're told that the current president is an agent of the Russian state.

Surreal.

Beyond the Shitshow, and through the looking-glass we go.

Posted by Lex 2019-10-13 10:07|| 2019-10-13 10:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Note that even if it were true that roughly 50% of the nation wants impeachment, that's nowhere near the threshold needed to move to a trial and actually impeach.

That threshold is closer to 75% of the country, which is where it was when the White House tapes were revealed in 1974.

These clowns can't even do Conspiracy 101 correctly.

Posted by Lex 2019-10-13 10:14|| 2019-10-13 10:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Make telephone polls in districts that vote Dim and do street polls in the same areas. Or just make it up. Who would know? Has anyone here ever been contacted to do a political poll? I haven't and I believe that to be a statistical impossibility.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2019-10-13 11:40|| 2019-10-13 11:40|| Front Page Top

#6 Rather-truths: fake but accurate.

Posted by Bobby 2019-10-13 11:44|| 2019-10-13 11:44|| Front Page Top

#7 I was exposed to Polls and Surveys in a university Political Science course many moons ago: Its ALL in the internals of the Poll. Until you dissect the questions and make-up of the sample the Poll is 'swamp gas' and usually after that inspection it is still 'swamp gas' only smellier.

Posted by magpie 2019-10-13 12:03|| 2019-10-13 12:03|| Front Page Top

#8 These polls are for Dem base consumption. These polls have got to create disbelief and cognitive dissonance in non-Kool Aid drinkers such as independents. If anyone watches any of the Trump rallies, you would think the entire country is on a bandwagon to elect Trump. This must panic the Dems. Hence all the phonied-up impeachment activity of the Dems.

Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-13 12:09|| 2019-10-13 12:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Has anyone here ever been contacted to do a political poll?

I used to get called all the time, AlmostAnonymous5839, sometimes more than once a day during election season, before Mr. Wife convinced me to give up the land line in 2017. But I live in southwest Ohio, which for some reason has been considered a bellwether voting area.

I may get calls still, but I don’t answer unidentified phone calls on the cell phone.

48% of its respondents were Democrats. But the actual breakdown of party-affiliation is 31% Democrat, 29% Republican and 38% independent, according to Gallup.

That may be as much a function of older Democrats answering their land line phones as a deliberate imbalance in responses.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-10-13 13:13|| 2019-10-13 13:13|| Front Page Top

#10 I get an absurd number of calls from my old area code on my cell. I never answer them. The ones that leave a message are computer Droid voices talking about Medicare (I'm not on it) and unpaid student loans (I don't have any, paid back or otherwise) I'd imagine some of the unanswered ones are robodialers for polls

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-10-13 13:41|| 2019-10-13 13:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Say it with me: "cheese food product" It is neither cheese nor food hence the qualifier product. In the case of polls, the fine print could include "100% fact free."

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-10-13 13:48|| 2019-10-13 13:48|| Front Page Top

#12 How to Lie with Statistics

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-13 13:55|| 2019-10-13 13:55|| Front Page Top

#13 I was approached as I entered the front door about ten years ago. Two twenty-somethings were doing a healthcare insurance survey. After trying to fit two of my answers into their little preconceived cubbyholes, and failing, they just gave up and moved on. I'm sure their 'survey' showed everyone wanted free healthcare, and that there was no one home at my address.

Posted by Bobby 2019-10-13 14:37|| 2019-10-13 14:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Has anyone here ever been contacted to do a political poll?

Yes but I hardly ever talk to them. When I do, my response is as follows: It is my opinion that my opinion is worth something so how much are you willing to pay me for it?

They always hang up at that point.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-10-13 14:42|| 2019-10-13 14:42|| Front Page Top

#15 There's a school of thought that says lie, tie them up on the phone etc. I agree with Abu. My time is valuable enough that I'm picky about what I read in the can...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-10-13 16:04|| 2019-10-13 16:04|| Front Page Top

#16 I don't respond to the phone unless I can ID the caller or screen the message. Saves a lot of wasted time.

Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-13 16:48|| 2019-10-13 16:48|| Front Page Top

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