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2019-03-19 Home Front: Culture Wars
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-19 07:28|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 The problem: A universal nation is a contradiction in terms. A nation of all races, religions and tribes had never before existed.

The liberal democracies that embraced this ideology, this idea, are at war with human nature, and are losing this war to tribalism and authoritarianism.


And we will continue to 'lose the war' until the dominant tribe expels the democratic minority.

Our magnificent republic and it's experiment with freedom is but of speck of time in the annals of tribalism and authoritarianism.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-19 07:37||   2019-03-19 07:37|| Front Page Top

#2 World air travel has made tribalism untenable. If you believe in your tribe first and foremost, you are going to have friction everywhere you go away from your tribe. You can argue either way about whether there is an American tribe (I really think there isn't) but the fact stuff gets kinetic wherever Americans go still says something about tribalism.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-19 07:53||   2019-03-19 07:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Ref #2: Precisely correct. We now live in a giant zoo. Until other solutions are found, survival is dependent upon independent domains and separation....nothing has changed.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-19 08:02||   2019-03-19 08:02|| Front Page Top

#4 other solutions

Join the modern world. Stop worshipping a guy on a flying horse, moon phases, magic rocks and magic dirt. Stop worshipping celebrities. Stop worshipping clearly failed tinker toy excuses for economic systems. Stop worshipping yourself. Punish the wicked. Leave people who cause no trouble alone. (Looking at you, gun banners) Wise up. See the bigger picture...
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-19 08:18||   2019-03-19 08:18|| Front Page Top

#5 I ain't holding my breath, Murcek. Most humans can't see past their little monkey spheres of 100 people and tend to be reactionary to events. There is money and power in tribalizing things and most people look towards a god or charismatic figure.

I don't have any faith in humanity overcoming its hunter-gatherer roots for small tribes with powerful leaders and spirits shaping the world. The old wise men were there to keep a break on those impulses, but when they were ignored or cast down things went to hell quick. Our wise men are out of favor and ignored since they don't generate the clicks and views reactionary and charismatic people do. Therefore shit will go to hell for a while.
Posted by DarthVader 2019-03-19 10:47||   2019-03-19 10:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Tarrant is Australian. Tarrant worked as a personal trainer for two years about 10-12 years ago. His father was a triathlon-competitor and died at 49 of cancer. Mother was an English teacher. During a tour through Europe, Tarrant witnessed an Uzbek man drive a truck into a group of tourists in Stockholm, killing five. He claims to have been inspired by Anders Breivi, the Norway shooter. He spent much of his time playing violent video games while growing up according to his 94 yr.-old grandmother. He traveled extensively to different places in the world for seven years. The grandmother says he became radicalized after traveling. I wondered where he got the money to travel so much. He had a sizeable inheritance from his family. It's been reported he traveled to North Korea and Pakistan. Not exactly places most people would go for a vacation. He has been reported to say that he most identifies ideologically with China.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-03-19 11:13||   2019-03-19 11:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Our leaders in the 1920s understood this and took steps to halt the migrations until those who had come could be assimilated, and, in a word, Americanized.

So, yeah, it might be time to cool it for a while.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-03-19 12:08||   2019-03-19 12:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Maybe only let people in who are likely to be easily "americanised" and actually want to be "americanised" rather than parasite from Americans?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-03-19 12:12||   2019-03-19 12:12|| Front Page Top

#9 DV hit on something crucial. We now have digital tribes. So much for communication drawing us together...
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-19 15:21||   2019-03-19 15:21|| Front Page Top

#10 He has been reported to say that he most identifies ideologically with China.

Joseph Conrad would chuckle sadly, raise an eyebrow and say "You are surprised?"
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-19 15:24||   2019-03-19 15:24|| Front Page Top

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