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2018-09-19 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
President says he's considering a permanent American base in Poland after NATO ally offers to put $2 billion toward it
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Posted by Skidmark 2018-09-19 03:15|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 You might check with the PLO about Euro pledges and actual delivery.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-09-19 07:18||   2018-09-19 07:18|| Front Page Top

#2 It's hard for me to follow polish politics, but, from what I have seen they are anti-Russian, anti-immigration and more pro-US than the western NATO countries. But I could be wrong.
Pulling a base or two out of Germany and moving to Poland might send a message. But the Germans don't seem to think Germany is worth defending.
Posted by jvalentour 2018-09-19 07:33||   2018-09-19 07:33|| Front Page Top

#3 However, it'll also send a message to Russia: "You must really want war - look how close you put your country to our bases!"
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-09-19 07:37||   2018-09-19 07:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Some reasonable accommodation can surely be made by the Poles. Perhaps a promise not to shoot down any Malaysia Airliners or Russian Ilyushin-20 surveillance aircraft ?
Posted by Besoeker 2018-09-19 07:43||   2018-09-19 07:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe this fort could be built near the Katyn Forest?
Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-09-19 08:32||   2018-09-19 08:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Why isn't the rest of Europe paying us handsomely for protection?

Why do we defend them for free? It is tremendously expensive and all they do is shit all over us for it. We're militarist monsters because we have an army, and they're humanitarian superpowers because they don't.
Posted by Herb McCoy 2018-09-19 08:51||   2018-09-19 08:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Maybe this fort could be built near the Katyn Forest?

Or Auschwitz?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-09-19 09:00||   2018-09-19 09:00|| Front Page Top

#8 In reality Poland has Russians right at its border in Kaliningrad. Russia has also been looking to seize the Suwalki corridor so it has a nice land bridge to Belarus as Kaliningrad is isolated at the moment.


US troops are currently deployed in the Suwalki area, but are woefully under strength to stop a Russian invasion and are only there as a tripwire force and for advisement. Stars and Stripes had a great article on it yesterday.

Would it make the Russians more paranoid? Yeah (what doesn't?)
Would it make Putie's land grab harder? Hell yeah.
Posted by DarthVader 2018-09-19 09:07||   2018-09-19 09:07|| Front Page Top

#9 US should work with Poland and Hungary and any of teh other East Europe nations that are showing signs of sanity and build a neutral defense pact. Something solid that doesn't depend entirely on the US so that it can survive a few Democrat administrations. A pact that is defense oriented and unthreatening to Russia. Make a big Switzerland between Russia and Germany. We could even encourage the new state to purchase *some* Russian equipment to keep Putin happy.

We should have done so after the cold war but better late than never.
Posted by rjschwarz 2018-09-19 13:55||   2018-09-19 13:55|| Front Page Top

#10 Love the above. Also...

Could Putin get any more sulky
If Donald rode into Suwalki
As a four-armed hussar
And announced that the tsar
Should address him as 'God-Emperor Kalki?'"
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2018-09-19 13:59||   2018-09-19 13:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Here's Wiki: Kalki

The Kalki Purana (Sanskrit: कल्कि पुराण Kalki purāṇa) is a prophetic work in Sanskrit that details the life and times of Kalki, the tenth and final of the Dashavatara (the ten Avatars) of the Hindu deity Lord Vishnu. The narrative is set in near the end of the Kali Yuga or Dark Age, as revealed b
Posted by mossomo 2018-09-19 21:45||   2018-09-19 21:45|| Front Page Top

#12 I seem to recall that Poland was in discussions with President George W. Bush about an American base, but his successor was uninterested.
Posted by trailing wife 2018-09-19 21:46||   2018-09-19 21:46|| Front Page Top

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