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2018-03-23 Government

Trump ousts McMaster, taps Bolton as national security adviser

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Posted by 3dc 2018-03-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Darth Bolton, neocon extraordinaire. This will not end well. He's going to start wars. That's what neocons do.

Posted by Herb McCoy7309 2018-03-23 01:54|| 2018-03-23 01:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Well if that be true Herb, perhaps he can begin with Iran. It's long overdue.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-23 01:57|| 2018-03-23 01:57|| Front Page Top

#3 My worry is McMaster was telling Trump things he did not want to hear but things he needed to hear nonetheless. Which is why he left/got fired. McMaster knows war and the reality of it. Trump does not. Bolton was a diplomat, and as of late, a TV talking head.

Id rather have had Bolton as Sec State, let him clean out the state dept with a flamethrower and light some people up on the diplomatic side of things. Unlike NS Adviser, its a full cabinet level office, and a lot more powerful.

Starting wars isn't all that its cracked up to be, especially if you or your kids or grandkids are those who are tasked with winning the wars. I have skin in the game, though not my own anymore.

I have no confidence that Trump will not veer off and get distracted. And when that happens, this administration thrashes around and screws things up, usually with some wild Trump tweet as the cherry on top. And then the state dept wretches will once again stop things before they finish, leaving yet another war to be fought, screwing us military and our allies once again.

We who bleed got screwed in 91 when we could have finished the job once and for all. There would likely not have been a 9/11 nor a need for OIF if the first Bush had let us off the chain and took out Saddam. Then hit happened again in OIF, throwing away all the gains from the surge, thanks to that fricken jerk Islamist boot licker Obama. And in between that shit sandwich were Bosnia, Kosovo, and Somalia in between. And Haiti too.

If Trump and company do decide to have a go at Iran, they better damned well have solid and meaningful high impact objectives, have the means to achieve them quickly, and the will to finish the damned job.

It better be worth the blood it will cost.

Color me wary of full-on war with Iran - what are we trying to accomplish? Anything short of decapitation will end up reinforcing the hold of the Mullahs. Regime change has to be the goal, anything else is a half measure doomed to fail.

If Trump goes in there, he better go hard, win fast, win big, or the spineless GOP in congress will give the Dems the impeachment proceedings they are salivating over.

As for North Korea, there is simply no good answer there. We kicked the damned can down the road for too long under Clinton, Bush and Obama. 24 fricken years wasted. And that clown Jimmy Carter screwed up everything on the rare occasions when we did manage to put in some harder measures.

In Seoul, a lot of civilians will die. And the press will blame it all on the US instead of the North Korean artillery shells and nuclear strikes. Same warning about spineless Repubs and impeachment goes double here.

As someone famous once said, Its getting awfully hot - where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?

Posted by OldSpook 2018-03-23 02:55|| 2018-03-23 02:55|| Front Page Top

#4 We who bleed got screwed in 91 when we could have finished the job once and for all. There would likely not have been a 9/11 nor a need for OIF if the first Bush had let us off the chain and took out Saddam. Then hit happened again in OIF, throwing away all the gains from the surge, thanks to that fricken jerk Islamist boot licker Obama. And in between that shit sandwich were Bosnia, Kosovo, and Somalia in between. And Haiti too.

Absolutely true. Superb analysis OS, but I still believe Iran must be dealt with.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-23 03:01|| 2018-03-23 03:01|| Front Page Top

#5 The Sith shall rise again!

My worry is McMaster was telling Trump things he did not want to hear but things he needed to hear nonetheless.

Tell it to the Kurds.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-03-23 04:38|| 2018-03-23 04:38|| Front Page Top

#6 National Security. Did McMaster anticipate our forces were about to be attacked by a few hundred Russians, Russian artillery, Russian tanks?

National Secirity. Did McMaster predict our allies in the ME such as the SDF were about to be invaded resulting in 800,000 people being driven out of their land by Turkey and Al Qaeda in 0 to 60 days flat?

National Security. McMaster is a Flunky. Bolton = I know what is about to happen. McMaster = What just happened?

Posted by Omeger Gray6606 2018-03-23 06:57|| 2018-03-23 06:57|| Front Page Top

#7 The Obama types and soro s followers hate him so if he finishes a war they started beautiful fill the body bags with idiots who cares!

Posted by Vespasian Glomoter2762 2018-03-23 07:13|| 2018-03-23 07:13|| Front Page Top

#8 OS gets a big thumbs up for his analysis.

This is the kind of situation that I worried about with DJT. So far most of his "walk" has been decent, his "talk" I basically ignore on the "take him seriously, not literally" formula.

I've got my fingers crossed.

Posted by AlanC 2018-03-23 08:11|| 2018-03-23 08:11|| Front Page Top

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