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2017-08-16 Home Front: Culture Wars

Stone Mountain Memorial? That didn't take long.

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-16 08:26|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 The African American Democrat called the monument a "blight" on Georgia

Oh no, the old granite generals are not the "blight." They were not politicians or lawmakers. They fought for the tragically misguided belief in "states rights.' The "blight" is the long-term second order effects of cheap, imported labor and centralized government.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-16 08:37|| 2017-08-16 08:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Unfortunately the main states right they fought for was slavery.

Posted by Glenmore 2017-08-16 08:44|| 2017-08-16 08:44|| Front Page Top

#3 If every Confederate memorial and statue were taken down and ground to dust this afternoon; if every biography of Lee and Jackson, every painting, book or document, or historical reference was collected and incinerated; nothing would change for these people of hate. Their affliction is not symbolic. Their's is a far deeper, more sinister infirmity that finds it's roots not here, but elsewhere.

Please examine the migratory carnage currently underway in Europe (which has nothing at all to do with the harvesting of cotton) and tell me I am incorrect.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-16 09:02|| 2017-08-16 09:02|| Front Page Top

#4 It was carved in 1915, during the beginning of the height of KKK power and the building of the "lost cause" myth.

Posted by DarthVader 2017-08-16 09:36|| 2017-08-16 09:36|| Front Page Top

#5 Jefferson and Washington are next - Sarah Hoyt

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-16 09:37|| 2017-08-16 09:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Unfortunately the main states right they fought for was slavery

That's what their leaders fought for. The grunts in the line fought for their brothers (tribes) which the leadership exploited. Back then loyalty to state superseded loyalty to a union of states. Still exists to a certain extent today, usually on Saturdays in the Fall, also in colorful uniforms and marching bands.

Posted by Procopius2k 2017-08-16 09:47|| 2017-08-16 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Unfortunately the main states right they fought for was slavery

Apparently we're still 'fighting for states rights' as usurped by a bloated, tyrannical central government. The issue this time however, is not slavery, unless slavery is injected to stoke the fires of division, which might appear to be the case.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-16 10:05|| 2017-08-16 10:05|| Front Page Top

#8 I sure hope this thread doesn't develop into major North vs. South brawl.
1. We all agree that slavery was bad. Right?
2. We also agree that, at present, African-Americans/Left in general make demands that are way out of line. Right?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-16 10:10|| 2017-08-16 10:10|| Front Page Top

#9 We all agree that slavery ~~was~~ is bad.

slavery is [still] injected to stoke the fires of division

Posted by Skidmark 2017-08-16 10:25|| 2017-08-16 10:25|| Front Page Top

#10 We all agree that slavery was bad. Right?

I recall a prominent Jew having a discussion on those lines with Pharaoh in Egypt.

Posted by Procopius2k 2017-08-16 10:43|| 2017-08-16 10:43|| Front Page Top

#11 I will agree with removing Confederate monuments once 1) every piece of "music" containing the "n-word" has been destroyed and the production of more made a death penalty offense, 2) every 18-year-old African American is literate, numerate, knows both their parents, and has a sane, balanced knowledge of world and US history, and, 3) it's been demonstrated that the presence of these monuments is somehow to blame for the persistent barbarism of the inner cities.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2017-08-16 10:48|| 2017-08-16 10:48|| Front Page Top

#12 They have been targeting this for over a year. Surprised they are not threatening to cover it in wax like ISIS and the pyramids.

At the very, very least the Confederate monuments should be left up as a cautionary tale.

Posted by swksvolFF 2017-08-16 10:48|| 2017-08-16 10:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Darth, it was carved over quite a few years and paid for by the U. S. government and the state of Georgia.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2017-08-16 10:49|| 2017-08-16 10:49|| Front Page Top

#14 What's next? We will have to stop wearing bi-focals because their inventor, Benjamin Franklin, owned slaves at one time.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2017-08-16 10:51|| 2017-08-16 10:51|| Front Page Top

#15 “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

~ Geo Orwell, 1984

Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-16 11:18|| 2017-08-16 11:18|| Front Page Top

#16 Just giving a reference on when it was carved and what was going on. The 1920s were the heyday of the KKK and they were very powerful in all state and federal governments.

Posted by DarthVader 2017-08-16 11:20|| 2017-08-16 11:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg address where thousands of fresh graves were being dug for the dead of that battle proclaimed that the US was "One Nation".

To heal the wounds via honor to one another after the civil war, the monuments were built. Indeed, still One Nation. Only this time all men were free and inclusive.

In Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream" speach he dreamed that people of all colors come together in peace. That would include all Americans past and present.

Tearing down these statues of Americans is the tearing down of the United States of America.

Posted by Threatch Jeamp8135 2017-08-16 11:23|| 2017-08-16 11:23|| Front Page Top

#18 I've put this question to a few leftists that so far hasn't been answered by them (that is, not even an attempt to answer it) - 'Please explain why this has been a matter of grave concern for approximately the past five years and not the preceding 150 years.'

Posted by Raj 2017-08-16 11:37|| 2017-08-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#19 I have a small reputation for researching Native Americans in the Union Army during the Civil War. At a public meeting on this topic I was once asked why these men would fight for a government with a long history of abusing the natives, violating treaties, etc., you can fill in the rest.
I immediately answered, "They were fighting for a future, not the past."

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-08-16 12:14|| 2017-08-16 12:14|| Front Page Top

#20 #5 Jefferson and Washington are next - Sarah Hoyt

Mt Rushmore, the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial -- all must be destroyed!

Posted by JHH 2017-08-16 13:19|| 2017-08-16 13:19|| Front Page Top

#21 Mt Rushmore, the Washington Monument, the Jefferson Memorial -- all must be destroyed!
And Washington, D.C. must be officially renamed the Capital District. And we shall have Hunger Games to entertain and control the masses.

Posted by Glenmore 2017-08-16 14:16|| 2017-08-16 14:16|| Front Page Top

#22 Tear down those racist MLK statues

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-08-16 14:44|| 2017-08-16 14:44|| Front Page Top

#23 Sorry BP. That is Black American History. All monuments of White American History must be torn down. Last but not least the Statue of Liberty.

Posted by Hupeting Sforza8196 2017-08-16 14:59|| 2017-08-16 14:59|| Front Page Top

#24 What's next? We will have to stop wearing bi-focals because their inventor, Benjamin Franklin, owned slaves at one time.

Hat tip to Drudge:

Pastor Wants Presidents’ Names Removed From Washington, Jackson Parks Over Ties To Slavery

Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-08-16 15:11|| 2017-08-16 15:11|| Front Page Top

#25 I recall a prominent Jew having a discussion on those lines with Pharaoh in Egypt.

"Let my People go" not "the end to Egypicness"

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-16 15:43|| 2017-08-16 15:43|| Front Page Top

#26 The Lincoln memrial was desecrated two days ago. Even though he did not own slaves the leftists must have had a good reason. /sarc

Posted by Threatch Jeamp8135 2017-08-16 15:50|| 2017-08-16 15:50|| Front Page Top

#27 Maybe it's the other leftists, Threatch?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-16 15:51|| 2017-08-16 15:51|| Front Page Top

#28 Functional illiterates trying to erase history.

Posted by newc 2017-08-16 20:54|| 2017-08-16 20:54|| Front Page Top

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