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2015-10-26 Home Front: Politix
Trump: world a better place if Saddam, Kadhafi still ruled
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Posted by Steve White 2015-10-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11124 views ]  Top

#1 Perhaps not a popular opinion but I've said it before myself and I think he's right. Guys like Qdaffy, Saddam, Mubarak and Assad are the best those people can do. The way I see it there are two alternatives to the strongmen we have overthrown and currently seek to overthrow: the chaos that we see in those countries now; or else Americans and Europeans re-colonize that whole region which means we send military forces to occupy those countries indefinitely.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-10-26 13:13||   2015-10-26 13:13|| Front Page Top

#2 I felt that W gave the optimistic Democracy politics a chance and the Middle East was found wanting. To continue similar policies when it came to Quadaffi was stupid.

Realpolitik. They will have democracy when they are ready to claim it themselves (the way South Korea, Tawian, and others did). To force it upon a nation takes decades (Germany and Japan) and we clearly aren't willing to put in the time for these folks.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-10-26 13:31||   2015-10-26 13:31|| Front Page Top

#3 The problem with Ws plan was the same one the EUSSR has. Namely Europe has different peoples so no possibility of a demos to base a democracy on.
PLUS
Inferior tribal cultures cannot achieve the level of reciprocation needed for wealth creation.

We should f**ked turkey and made a kurdistan, a sunnistan and a shiastan, and told the strongman that he joins syria, iran etc he gets a Ceucescu moment.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2015-10-26 14:03||   2015-10-26 14:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Note the way they make it a package deal.

Kadhafi had only become less hostile as a result of watching Saddam being dragged out of his spiderhole on TV.

He then went on to spill the beans on the Khan Network and therefore enabled the Stuxnet worm.

Which was probably the reason for Barackenaten's and Hitlery's hostility...
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2015-10-26 16:11||   2015-10-26 16:11|| Front Page Top

#5 If Saddam, or heir, was still in power, we'd had another Iran-Iraq war by now.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-10-26 16:42||   2015-10-26 16:42|| Front Page Top

#6 If Saddam, or heir, was still in power, we'd had another Iran-Iraq war by now.

sometimes I wonder of that would necessarily be a bad thing....
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-10-26 16:58||   2015-10-26 16:58|| Front Page Top

#7 We sort of have one now (at least Shi vs Sunni), except the front lines are all over the place instead of neatly along the border between Iran and Iraq.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-10-26 17:06||   2015-10-26 17:06|| Front Page Top

#8 sometimes I wonder of that would necessarily be a bad thing

Understatement of the day?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-10-26 17:15||   2015-10-26 17:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Muslims killing other muslims by the droves. It's been history (See - Tamerlane). It's today. Pass the popcorn.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-10-26 18:04||   2015-10-26 18:04|| Front Page Top

#10 The Middle East was a better place without Saddam until 0bean turned it into a clusterf**k. 0bean owns Iraq.

0bean owns Syria all on his own.
Posted by Sven the pelter 2015-10-26 18:07||   2015-10-26 18:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Ever wonder what Germany would look like if we withdrew in 1948? Or Korea in 1955. We already had the example of withdrawal from Indochina in 1973.
Posted by Betty Hitler2611 2015-10-26 18:23||   2015-10-26 18:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Not a better world, only a differently bad one
Posted by European Conservative 2015-10-26 20:50||   2015-10-26 20:50|| Front Page Top

#13 Bingo, #12 EC.
Posted by Barbara 2015-10-26 21:57||   2015-10-26 21:57|| Front Page Top

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