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2015-05-09 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
The Middle East Runs out of Water
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Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-05-09 12:27|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 Whoops.....I should have highlighted the first paragraph in yellow.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-05-09 12:58||   2015-05-09 12:58|| Front Page Top

#2 lack of water may overshadow the sport of jihad, and create wars to the death over limited water

Still using rhetoric of Jihad, though---that's the beauty of Islam.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-05-09 13:59||   2015-05-09 13:59|| Front Page Top

#3 I did a report on Israel's newer desalination plants. Some really neat stuff there. It's not super cheap but it's a big step forward and an important one for them.
Posted by Silentbrick 2015-05-09 14:39||   2015-05-09 14:39|| Front Page Top

#4 I read about Israeli desalination progress, too, silentbrick. It is amazing. If the ME states could work with Israel, they would make the desert bloom, but their time honored tradition of blaming all their troubles on the Jews will accelerate their trip down the drain.

3dc and I did some rough calculations a few years ago about taking Med water, running down toward the Dead Sea, and generating electricity for reverse osmosis desalination, and sharing the benefits with Jordan. We figured that we would do enough to make enough flow, coupled with briny reject water to slowly fill the Dead Sea and make up for annual evaporation to fill the sea to appropriate natural levels in a long horizon. I know Israel has been looking at it for years, but political situation for it is not good. Ye Olde River Jordan flow is not enough now to replenish the sea, as the river is being over drawn by users upstream.

It is also notable that the Persian Gulf is being made more saline due to heavy reverse osmosis (RO) water process plants. 36000 to 47000 ppm is a significant rise. I know that EPA is concerned about the rise of salinity. It seems to me that in California, the briny reject water could be transported in HDPE pipe outfall lines along the continental shelf 12 km or less and sent to deep water for mixing by ocean currents. In the case of the Persian Gulf, there is limited water flow through.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-05-09 15:30||   2015-05-09 15:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Not to belittle the sand peoples' water problem but this is BS of the scale of blaming man for Global Cooling Warming Climate Change:

Persian Gulf: Vast desalination efforts, ironically, have increased the salinity level of gulf sea water from 32,000 to 47,000 parts per million, threatening fauna and marine life.

The PG is a very warm, shallow sea with little fresh water inflow and limited exchange with the Arabian Sea. A similar, though not as extreme, example is the Eastern Mediterranean which can reach 40,000 PPM salinity in the summer.
Posted by Eohippus Thigum6400 2015-05-09 17:32||   2015-05-09 17:32|| Front Page Top

#6 A retired civil engineer specializing in waste water used to tell me,"The solution to pollution is dilution."
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-05-09 20:21||   2015-05-09 20:21|| Front Page Top

#7 I will sell them my spit
Posted by chris 2015-05-09 23:06||   2015-05-09 23:06|| Front Page Top

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