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2014-03-09 Terror Networks
Missing airliner appears to have crashed
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Posted by badanov 2014-03-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ]  Top

#1 since no terrorist group has claimed responsibility yet, it really doesn't seem like terrorism was the most likely cause
Posted by lord garth 2014-03-09 00:24||   2014-03-09 00:24|| Front Page Top

#2 IS News Network: Stolen passport travel prevention.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-09 04:44||   2014-03-09 04:44|| Front Page Top

#3 I can think of many reasons why a group would not be so quick to claim credit. I think the four UNSUBs were connected to the crash.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2014-03-09 06:58||   2014-03-09 06:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Were the Unknown Subjects of Investigation photographed whilst boarding? Have one-way ticket? Employment? Pay cash for ticket? Credit card info? Baggage? Family on arrival end?

A Biometrics Automated Toolset (BAT) and Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment (HIDES) system is desperately needed for air travel and immigration. Technology exists to stop this bullshi*.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-09 09:06||   2014-03-09 09:06|| Front Page Top

#5 ..actually, the old Mongol approach seemed to solve such problems. A lot of collateral damage, but a resolution was achieved. People also figured out not to mess with the Mongols for a couple hundred years (which time span probably reduces to decades in modern calculations).
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-03-09 09:12||   2014-03-09 09:12|| Front Page Top

#6 My spidey sense tell me the investigators know a lot more about them than they are letting on.

Re; the biometrics - while the tech exists, it is scale issue. How do you enroll billions of people?
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2014-03-09 09:13||   2014-03-09 09:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Ok, 'go Mongol' and use BATS/HIDES as a backup. I'm good with that.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-09 09:13||   2014-03-09 09:13|| Front Page Top

#8 How do you enroll billions of people? Posted by Bangkok Billy


Start with the obvious shi* disturbers, then gradually integrate the Mennonites, Moravians, Swedes, Danes, Fijians, etc.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-09 09:21||   2014-03-09 09:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Maybe somebody has it in for Freescale Semiconductor?
Posted by Glenmore 2014-03-09 09:22||   2014-03-09 09:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Reuters had this to say about one of the false passports:
If there were passengers on board with stolen passports, it was not clear how they passed through security checks.

International police body Interpol maintains a database of more than 39 million travel documents reported lost or stolen by 166 countries, and says on its website that this enables police, immigration or border control officers to check the validity of a suspect document within seconds. No comment was immediately available from the organization.

Italian police said the passport of Luigi Maraldi was reported stolen on August 1, 2013 and was inserted in the Interpol database
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-03-09 11:39||   2014-03-09 11:39|| Front Page Top

#11 AP had this to say about the sudden loss of communication:
Capt. John M. Cox, who spent 25 years flying for US Airways and is now CEO of Safety Operating Systems, said that whatever happened to the Malaysia Airlines jet, it occurred quickly. The problem had to be big enough, he said, to stop the plane’s transponder from broadcasting its location, although the transponder can be purposely shut off from the cockpit.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-03-09 11:42||   2014-03-09 11:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Oceanic Flight 815 situation.
Posted by Glenmore 2014-03-09 11:56||   2014-03-09 11:56|| Front Page Top

#13 The names of the two pilots:

Ahmad Shah, 53, Abdul Hamid, 27

Any Questions?
Posted by Goober Snesing9683 2014-03-09 12:02||   2014-03-09 12:02|| Front Page Top

#14 goober,

you may be thinking of the 1999 crash of Egyptian Air flight 990; it was crashed by Gameel Al-Batouti who was the first officer of the relief crew; al batouti's motivation(s) are, of course, unknowable; he had been recently reprimanded by his chain of supervisors (and one of them was aboard) and one theory is that he was depressed or trying to kill a hated supervisor; in addition, there were several dozen high level military officers aboard and one theory is that al batouti was trying to kill those people;

the other 3 egyptian flight officers tried to avert the crash
Posted by lord garth 2014-03-09 12:26||   2014-03-09 12:26|| Front Page Top

#15 "How do you enroll billions of people?"

When they want to fly, they get their first time check at the Airport before bording?

Ahh, big brother stuff. Skerry
Posted by newc 2014-03-09 14:28||   2014-03-09 14:28|| Front Page Top

#16 The 2 stolen passports were used to buy tickets in Thailand to board at KL. That says to me drug mules.

But possible terrorists using drug mule MO.
Posted by phil_b 2014-03-09 16:18||   2014-03-09 16:18|| Front Page Top

#17 There is already a system to real time check for stolen/dodgy passports, but only USA, Aus and NZ use it.
Posted by phil_b 2014-03-09 16:20||   2014-03-09 16:20|| Front Page Top

#18 From THE AMERICAN THINKER Blog:

Los Angeles Times reported “Mikael Robertsson, cofounder of FlightRadar24, which tracks about 120,000 flights per day with 3,000 receivers around the world, said the last transmission it recorded from the flight was at 35,000 feet.” FlightRadar believes MH 370“lost radar contact about 40 minutes into the flight, not two hours as the airline said.” He added, “I don’t want to speculate, but something very sudden happened.”

Thai Meteorological Department reported the cool and sunny weather with Southerly winds 10-20 km/hr. Malaysian Flight 370 transponder pings indicate the plane was cruising level at 35,000 feet, with no adverse weather, and no crew reports of mechanical issues. The aircraft was an 11-year-old Boeing 777-200 carrying 225 passengers, two infants, and 12 crew members. The only fatal accident of any Boeing 777 after 18 years of revenue service was Asiana Airlines Flight 214, where pilot error caused the plane to miss the runway in San Francisco. About 150 of Flight 370’s passengers, or 67%, were Chinese citizens on a regularly scheduled 5 hour and 55 minute flight. After flying level for an extended period, the plane abruptly veered 200 meters off course and then vanished, seeming to indicate the plane imploded into pieces after a catastrophic event. Given that two passengers were reported to be flying on a stolen Austrian and a stolen Italian passport, the most likely scenario is the plane imploded into pieces shortly after an onboard explosion from a large bomb in a luggage compartment.

There is a lot of typical speculation to the cause, but the transponder and weather information is a start.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-03-09 22:17||   2014-03-09 22:17|| Front Page Top

#19 More information from WRECHARD at the Belmont Club.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-03-09 22:24||   2014-03-09 22:24|| Front Page Top

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