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2013-11-29 China-Japan-Koreas

Japan, South Korea Defy Chinese Air Zone

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Posted by Fred 2013-11-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Cue North Korea sword rattling...

Posted by BrerRabbit 2013-11-29 11:51|| 2013-11-29 11:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Chinese authorities are coming under internal pressure

Who in China is in a position to put pressure on the authorities? Are the PLAN authorities being pressured by the Commie Party?

Posted by AlanC 2013-11-29 14:09|| 2013-11-29 14:09|| Front Page Top

#3 If your wanted to know how accidents start... this is it. Japanese F-15s engage after a lockon. The rest, history.

Posted by Shipman 2013-11-29 14:30|| 2013-11-29 14:30|| Front Page Top

#4 And if you're a weak and betting sort of person. Put your money on the JSDF. And the Imperial Navy.

Posted by Shipman 2013-11-29 14:32|| 2013-11-29 14:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Not my fight, but this might come in handy for those in the theater:

Posted by Au Auric 2013-11-29 14:43|| 2013-11-29 14:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Put your money on the JSDF. And the Imperial Navy.

Once upon a time, the IJN was the terror of the high seas. The ChiComs don't want a repeat of that and likely have worked out a contingency plan.

Having declared an ADIZ that everyone is pointedly ignoring is a loss of face for the Chinese. Something will have to be done about that. I suspect they are saving it up for when push comes to shove in what would traditionally be a minor incident. Massive escalation ensues and they get to say "Hey, we warned you...".

Posted by SteveS 2013-11-29 15:16|| 2013-11-29 15:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Is anyone else very concerned by this incident given our "CINC"?

If Mr. Reagan was still in charge I would not be worried. Now............?????????????

Posted by AlanC 2013-11-29 15:28|| 2013-11-29 15:28|| Front Page Top

#8 'Tis a PCorrect-Deniable, "soft power" MilPol escalation, but a MilPol escalation nonetheless as CHINA WILL KEEP STEADILY "UPPING THE ANTE".

* BIGNEWSNETWORK > [IBT.com] CHINA RESPONDS SARCASTICALLY TO JAPAN'S REQUEST TO REVOKE ADIZ AIR DEFENCE ZONE.

* SAME > [National Turk] SENKAKU ISLANDS DISPUTE: CHINA THREATENS JAPAN WID COLD WAR.

HHHHMMM, HHHHHMMM, YES-N-NO, as IMO China's desire for PLA-centric, unfettered or unchallenged strategic access into WESTPAC makes any such "Cold War" TEMPORARY AT BEST - DITTO AS REFLECTED PER ITS MILITARY HISTORY AGZ TAIWAN, VIETNAM, + PHIL.

China will put out all of the PCorrect, pro-Diplomacy/Peace feelers, etc. THEN SUDDENLY SHOCKINGLY JUST OPEN FIRE ON A NICE DAY.

* SAME >[Prison Planet] CHINA DECLARES "WILLING TO ENGAGE IN PROTRACTIVE CONFLICT" WID JAPAN AS "PRIME TARGET".

* RUSSIA TODAY > OP-ED: US TO CHINA: STOP BEING ALL SOVEREIGN!

USA > D *** NG IT, CHINA, THIS IS THE ERA OF OWG GLOBALISM = ERA OF "BORDERLESS" ANTI-SOVEREIGNTY - STOP BEING A PRO-SOVEREIGN NATIONALIST, ITS JUST SSSSSOOOOOOOOO PRE-9-11!

To paraph 1980's "BLOOM COUNTY" = "CONTEMPORIZE, MAN, COMTEMPORIZE"!

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [NYT] AIRSPACE CLAIMS FORCE OBAMA TO FLESH OUT CHINA STRATEGY.

Clearly the NYT has misspelled "Strategeeery"???

Real mil conflict in defense of US interests + Allies; or a pro-Marxist-Socialist, pro-OWG Globalist "POTEMKIN-IST WAR" WHERE THE US INTENTIONALLY UNILATERALLY GIVES UP EAST ASIA + 1/2 OF THE PACIFIC [Guam? Hawaii?] WHILE PRETENDING IT MILPOL "LOST" [wink-wink] THE SAME TO CHINA???

Where absolutely positively categorically undeniably ...@etc. "having no choice" in the real/present time = obeying an agenda that was pre-planned many years or decades ago???

* SAME > CHINA TESTING LIMITS OF US [US-Allies] RELATIONSHIPS WID AIR DEFENCE ZONE.

* Also from BHARAT RAKSHAK ...
> [WantChinaTimes] B-52'S SEND WARNINGS TO BOTH CHINA AND JAPAN: [Foremr] US OFFICIAL. Anne-Marie Slaughter.
> SAME > ABE'S "CONFRONTATIONAL PACIFISM" WILL NOT BRING ABOUT PEACE.
> SAME = BEIJING WILLING TO GO TO WAR OVER EAST CHINA SEA: [Anonymous] JAPANESE SCHOLAR.
> SAME = CHINA TESTING LIMITS OF US DOMINANCE IN EAST ASIA.

IMO "DOMINANCE" ALSO READ AS [POTUS BAMMER, OWG GLOBALIST-LED "WILLINGNESS", to serve-n-protect US interests in East Asia.

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Lastly, closer to home [Guam-CNMI-Westpac] ...

* WANTCHINATIMES > JAPAN TO EXPAND [its own] AIR DEFENCE ZONE FURTHER SOUTH, towards the Ogasawara = Bonin Islands.

Japan SDFS Arc extending to link wid the USDOD in Guam + CNMI - it already shares IWO JIMA wid the US vee routine training activities.

But I digress ...

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-11-29 20:53|| 2013-11-29 20:53|| Front Page Top

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