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2013-06-23 China-Japan-Koreas
J-15 flies from Liaoning
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Posted by Steve White 2013-06-23 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [343 views ]  Top

#1 ...Respectfully, Steve speaks wisdom. Right now, the Chinese appear to have exactly one aircraft specifically designed to operate off a CV. They still don't have an AEW bird, they don't appear to have a COD capability, they have yet to show the ability to put together a CVBG with a layered defense, and they haven't yet shown the ability to UNREP the way they will have to do to keep them out to sea and fighting the way we do, instead of bringing them back every few days to replenish.

This is a threat for the future, without question. But right now, the Liaoning is a really high tech raider, like the Graf Spee. She's no Enterprise, and won't be for a long time.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2013-06-23 08:35||   2013-06-23 08:35|| Front Page Top

#2  Right now, the Chinese appear to have exactly one aircraft specifically designed to operate off a CV. They still don't have an AEW bird, they don't appear to have a COD capability

If one uses the carrier as a 'lily pad' during offensive ops, then one worries little about such things.
Posted by Pappy 2013-06-23 09:48||   2013-06-23 09:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Right now, the Chinese appear to have exactly one aircraft specifically designed to operate off a CV.

The US has... ummmm... LawnDart, Hummer, OldCOD. So that's 3 - plus the queers... 4... what else?
Posted by Shipman 2013-06-23 12:47||   2013-06-23 12:47|| Front Page Top

#4 The US has... ummmm... LawnDart, Hummer, OldCOD. So that's 3 - plus the queers... 4... what else?

The Harrier is at least technically carrier capable, and we still have the F-35 in the pipeline.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2013-06-23 13:44||   2013-06-23 13:44|| Front Page Top

#5 4... what else?

The Opsrey.
Posted by Pappy 2013-06-23 15:15||   2013-06-23 15:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Harrier is at least technically carrier capable
The Brits operated them off various platforms for years, and the USMC did also on the LPH/LHD/other Gator Freighters.

Ship: you have no idea how much trouble I have gotten in over the years using that non-PC term of endearment to describe the Electric Intruders...
Posted by USN, Ret. 2013-06-23 19:34||   2013-06-23 19:34|| Front Page Top

#7 China's main threat remains its PLAA ground forces as supported by PLAAF LR airlift, SPECOPS, etc.

Their history is that they are willing to trade time + mass casualties to achieve a startegic or military objective, + thus far by PLA Officios themselves nothing appears to had changed despite the advent of the Liaoning.

Unless the so-called "powers that be" in the World have already selected POTUS Bammer's successor come 2016 US Elex + post-2015 OWG GFU, it behoooves both China + Iran, etc. to make their moves ASAP AMAP ALAP while the seemingly "weakest US POTUS in history e-v-a-r", i.e. POTUS Obama, is in the White House.

The Soviets ran amok to the US' detriment when Jimbo Carter was in the White House.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-06-23 20:14||   2013-06-23 20:14|| Front Page Top

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