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2013-04-20 Home Front: WoT
FBI had interviewed Tamerlan in 2011
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Posted by Steve White 2013-04-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 If INS Agent Brian A. Terry were alive today, he might have an interesting comment or two.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 00:16||   2013-04-20 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 SO let me get this straight. If a non-citizen is referred to the FBI/DHS by a foreign intelligence service, and the standard for denial to retain green card status after six months out of the country, when the subject is a known Muslim, Chechen jihadi-condoning individual, must be incriminating evidence?
Jesus Mary and Joseph, how f'ing stupid a nation have we become?
Posted by NoMoreBS 2013-04-20 00:21||   2013-04-20 00:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Quite obviously a rhetorical question NMBS.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 00:46||   2013-04-20 00:46|| Front Page Top

#4 File under investigations right next to Muslims studying at flight schools prior to 9/11. No one got fired on ignoring that one either. Has 'making an example to encourage others' been forgotten in human behavior modification? Kimmel and Short could not be reached for comment.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-04-20 07:56||   2013-04-20 07:56|| Front Page Top

#5 "They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremist sites... they were controlling him, they were controlling his every step...and now they say that this is a terrorist act!"

If true, appears to be an amazing similarity between Nadal Hasan and the older Tsarnaev. Was Tsarnaev an unwitting source gone bad? Lots of questions here.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 10:18||   2013-04-20 10:18|| Front Page Top

#6 The Tsarnaev brothers were double agents who decoyed US into terror trap
Posted by Thromotch Pheatle9230 2013-04-20 10:19||   2013-04-20 10:19|| Front Page Top

#7 I hope the Congress demands to look at the Tsarnaev file. Look at the last date of contact. Last US contact with foreign intelligence ref the subject. Agent assessments on subject, recommendations, etc.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 10:21||   2013-04-20 10:21|| Front Page Top

#8 I hope and pray the DEBKAfile story is totally bogus, black helos.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 10:24||   2013-04-20 10:24|| Front Page Top

#9 From the above Debka article:
An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission.
The city of Cambridge was the source of the scholarship. UMass-Dartmouth is not an 'elite American college". I'm sure UMass has admission qualifications, really doubt they are 'exceptionally stiff.'
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-20 10:24||   2013-04-20 10:24|| Front Page Top

#10 The city of Cambridge was the source of the scholarship. UMass-Dartmouth is not an 'elite American college". I'm sure UMass has admission qualifications, really doubt they are 'exceptionally stiff.'

Debka's almost up there with the BBC, or the NYT when it comes to the Midwest.
Posted by Pappy 2013-04-20 10:34||   2013-04-20 10:34|| Front Page Top

#11 I didn't think the Midwest started in Cambridge these days; I thought you had to go all the way to the Hudson.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-04-20 11:45||   2013-04-20 11:45|| Front Page Top

#12 I am not discounting DEBKAfile completely.

There are very well established protocols [Laws] for US Intelligence or law enforcement contact with Non-US Persons. How many times and on what dates did the Bureau [or anyone else] meet with Tsarvaev? Reports on each personal meet [PM] with Non-US Persons are maintained? Outstanding issues? Recommendations? Contact terminations, etc?

If Tsarnaev was of no interest to the Bureau or US Intelligence, why not ?

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-20 12:26||   2013-04-20 12:26|| Front Page Top

#13 From #4 Proc wrote "Kimmel and Short could not be reached for comment. " For the first fifteen seconds I was trying to recall the movie starring Jimmy Kimmel and Martin Short.
Posted by Penguin 2013-04-20 12:37||   2013-04-20 12:37|| Front Page Top

#14 FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, anyone heard or seen him lately?
Posted by Black Bart Bucket8742 2013-04-20 12:39||   2013-04-20 12:39|| Front Page Top

#15 Can anyone with a magic graphic suite work out what his license plate says?
Posted by tipper 2013-04-20 12:55||   2013-04-20 12:55|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm not discounting Debka either. This type of story is closer to their editorial objective; it would make sense that they'd do a more thorough 'journalistic' job, like quoting people.

Still, there's some howlers in there.
Posted by Pappy 2013-04-20 13:12||   2013-04-20 13:12|| Front Page Top

#17 I didn't think the Midwest started in Cambridge these days; I thought you had to go all the way to the Hudson.

Just ask Maureen Dowd. The Midwest starts on the western side of the Hudson River just across from Manhattan.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2013-04-20 14:17||   2013-04-20 14:17|| Front Page Top

#18 Don't know about the rest of the article but U-Mass Dartmouth is that "safe" school that you apply to cause you have to get in somewhere (first hand experience of youngest son).

Sounds like they conflated the UKs Cambridge with Dartmouth in New Hampshire.
Posted by AlanC 2013-04-20 14:29||   2013-04-20 14:29|| Front Page Top

#19 No.
And it was Oswald with a rifle.
They were victims of poor navigation
Crater had it coming, whatever it was.
Posted by Shipman 2013-04-20 15:05||   2013-04-20 15:05|| Front Page Top

#20 Here is where it gets really troubling. Tamerlan is inerviewed two years ago at the request of the SVR/FSB and we can assume that they cite Chechen/Jihadi connections. We can assume that State was the conduit or was copied a result of the field interview/EC by the field agent/JTTF member. One must assume in the filing of the interview report and followup investigation that produced no "incriminating evidence" that there were words for the cross reference/grographic search criteria that included Boston, redicalized, Chechen,foreign government referral, etc. Two years later, boom, with a signature explosive that in the initial 24 hour period gives a signature of the kind of device favored by jihadi groups, Islamists, foreign trained radicals. So the FBI and the entire federal government commits thousands of agents/analysts/investigators searching every conceivable database, and they get bupkiss about this kid? I've done a few linak analysis/analyst notebook/EC searches, and this is beyond understanding. They don't go loooking for the host of people who fit those criteria and come up with these mutts? It requires a photo plea to the public to get movement? Something is not adding up. And, what about the Mosque, its links to other Mosques, and the suddenly deported person of interest Al-Haribi ($) whose family is deep in AQ support and was also a student in the Boston area. an now we find the Chechen Emirate in Tamerlan past and its link to AQ. Does anyone else smell the whiff of overripe seafood? Please........
Posted by NoMoreBS 2013-04-20 18:45||   2013-04-20 18:45|| Front Page Top

#21 '#15 Can anyone with a magic graphic suite work out what his license plate says?'

It says - TERROR3[?]ETZ[?] [space} ?vV
Posted by linker 2013-04-20 19:40||   2013-04-20 19:40|| Front Page Top

#22 oh sorry - i ment to add this image was photoshoped with cs3+
Posted by linker 2013-04-20 19:41||   2013-04-20 19:41|| Front Page Top

#23 not sure about mass. license plate laws but many states say you have to have proper plates front and back..
Posted by linker 2013-04-20 19:44||   2013-04-20 19:44|| Front Page Top

#24 I believe that Massachusetts only has a rear plate, like PA, NC, SC, GA and FL.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-04-20 20:37||   2013-04-20 20:37|| Front Page Top

#25 First, there are clear shots of that plate elsewhere. It says terrorista. Second, MA requires legal plates front and rear. These guys are pretty bold and confident, aren't they.
Posted by KBK 2013-04-20 21:59||   2013-04-20 21:59|| Front Page Top

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