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2013-04-19 Home Front: WoT
Reports of gunshots at major Boston university
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Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 01:16|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Looks like somebody rly really Really REALLY WANTS COMMUNISM-SOCIALISM + GLOBALISM in AMerica = Amerika???

And widout having to ask the People to vote on iff they want the same???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-04-19 01:44||   2013-04-19 01:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Update
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 01:48||   2013-04-19 01:48|| Front Page Top

#3 There is a lot going on that has not yet been picked up by the MSM. After the officer was shot (and later died) police apprehended a suspect and are after another in and around Watertown . Reports of a possible bomb in the roadway and concern that there could be others. I have been following this twitter link : @MichaelSkolnik It reads like a action movie plot.
Posted by Thumper J. Sloque  2013-04-19 01:49||   2013-04-19 01:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Suspect arrested
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 02:12||   2013-04-19 02:12|| Front Page Top

#5 Tipper they let that guy go. He is not a suspect.
Posted by Penguin 2013-04-19 02:18||   2013-04-19 02:18|| Front Page Top

#6 The bostonglobe.com has dropped its paywall & is open to anyone to peruse.
From its section on the incident:
WATERTOWN — One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been captured, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation. Another remains on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police. Authorities have established a 20-block perimeter as they search for him.

A scene of chaos descended on Cambridge and Watertown late Thursday night and early Friday morning, as police confirmed an MIT police officer was shot and killed, and an apparent carjacking led police on a wild chase into Watertown.

Witnesses in Watertown said they heard explosions. Police officers were screaming about improvised explosive devices.

Authorities would not comment on whether the events were connected to Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings. At least one of the suspects in Watertown appeared to be a man in his 20s.

FBI agents were on the scene in Watertown.

“We are aware of the situation, we are being involved, and we are monitoring,” said an FBI representative who requested anonymity because of not being authorized to speak publicly. The FBI source said early Friday it is “too early to speculate” on a relation to the Marathon bombing.

Dozens of police officers descended on Watertown Square after midnight.

“This is still extremely dangerous,” an FBI agent said. The Cambridge bomb squad arrived in Watertown shortly after 1:30 a.m.

A man in handcuffs was being questioned by the FBI in the back of an ambulance.

At Arsenal Court and Arsenal Street in Watertown, an officer bellowed: “Ya gotta get outta here. There’s an active shooter here with an active explosive. Go!”

Peter Jennings, 33, said he was sleeping just before 1 a.m. in his home on Prentiss Street in Watertown when he was awakened by a huge boom.

“It sounded like a stick of dynamite went off,” he said. “I looked out the window, and it was like nothing I’ve ever seen – blue light after blue light after blue light.”

He said more than three dozen emergency vehicles with sirens blaring were heading down Rt. 16 West. He went to the end of his street, where some neighbors were gathering. The air, he said, smelled like “at the end of a fireworks show, like a wick smell.”

“I had a bad feeling because of what happened on Monday,” he said.

John Antonucci’s 79-year-old mother called him hysterical from her home in Laurel Street. She heard about five gun shots and didn’t know what to do.

“She was saying they’re running down the street shooting,” Antonucci said standing outside if yellow police tape. “She was crying so hard I couldn’t understand what she was talking about.”
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 02:48||   2013-04-19 02:48|| Front Page Top

#7 WHDH-TV in Boston is running a continuous stream of their broadcast. Latest ? reliable report is that manhunt going on in Watertown area is for 2 Boston Marathon bombing suspects, one of whom is already dead due to tonight's events.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 03:04||   2013-04-19 03:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Appears the police may have found the nest. I was doubtful the bombers would be found. If this is them, I am sure glad I was wrong.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 03:28||   2013-04-19 03:28|| Front Page Top

#9 Fingers crossed they are muslims
Posted by Floluth Dark Lord of the Leprechauns8471 2013-04-19 03:32||   2013-04-19 03:32|| Front Page Top

#10 My money's on Saudi supposed students.
Posted by phil_b 2013-04-19 03:36||   2013-04-19 03:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Mass State Police tweets a few minutes ago:

If any concerns about someone at door, call 911 immediately. Repeat--Do not answer door, stay away from windows, keep doors locked.

MASS STATE POLICE ‏@MassStatePolice 3m
Residents in and around Watertown should stay in their residences. Do NOT answer door unless it is an identified police officer.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 03:42||   2013-04-19 03:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Most recent MSP tweet:
Police will be going door by door, street by street, in and around Watertown. Police will be clearly identified. It is a fluid situation.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 03:47||   2013-04-19 03:47|| Front Page Top

#13 My money's on Saudi supposed students.
phil_b, I like to take the Sherlock Holmes approach to criminal situations; "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
This is either the real deal or a drug bust gone bad.
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 04:28||   2013-04-19 04:28|| Front Page Top

#14 Surveillance video from a 7-11 robbery in Cambridge just before the shootings & manhunt began in the area, showing suspect #2, the current focus of the manhunt:
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 04:34||   2013-04-19 04:34|| Front Page Top

#15 Boston PD have reported one of the marathon bomb suspects dead.
Posted by phil_b 2013-04-19 04:35||   2013-04-19 04:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Reuters quoting the local district attorney at 0415 EDT:
THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS
MIDDLESEX DISTRICT ATTORNEY
15 COMMONWEALTH AVE WOBURN MA 01801
Middlesex
District Attorney

For Immediate
Release Contact: Stephanie Chelf Guyotte/MaryBeth Long

UPDATE: Two Suspects Involved In MIT Officer Shooting And
Armed Carjacking
One suspect killed, second suspect at large
CAMBRIDGE -- Police are investigating a fatal
shooting of MIT campus police officer by two men who then committed an armed
carjacking in Cambridge, Middlesex Acting District Attorney Michael Pelgro,
Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert Haas, and MIT Police Chief John DiFava
announced this evening.


At approximately 10:20 p.m. April 18, police received
reports of shots fired on the MIT campus. At 10:30 p.m., an MIT campus
police officer was found shot in his vehicle in the area of Vassar and Main
streets. According to authorities, the officer was found evidencing
multiple gunshot wounds. He was transported to Massachusetts General
Hospital and pronounced deceased.


Authorities launched an immediate investigation into the
circumstances of the shooting. The investigation determined that two males were
involved in this shooting.


A short time later, police received reports of an armed
carjacking by two males in the area of Third Street in Cambridge. The
victim was carjacked at gunpoint by two males and was kept in the car with the
suspects for approximately a half hour. The victim was released at a gas
station on Memorial Drive in Cambridge. He was not injured.


Police immediately began a search for the vehicle and were
in pursuit of the vehicle into Watertown. At that time, explosive devices
were reportedly thrown from car by the suspects. The suspects and police
also exchanged gunfire in the area of Dexter and Laurel streets. During
this pursuit, an MBTA Police officer was seriously injured and transported to
the hospital.


During the pursuit, one suspect was critically injured and
transported to the hospital where he was pronounced deceased. An
extensive manhunt is ongoing in the Watertown area for the second suspect, who
is believed to be armed and dangerous.


The case is being investigated by local, state and federal
authorities working in cooperation. The Massachusetts State Police Bomb
Squad is assessing and removing any potentially explosive devices that may have
been thrown on the street in Watertown by the suspects.


The investigation remains active and ongoing.


No further information is available at this time.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 04:55||   2013-04-19 04:55|| Front Page Top

#17 What I don't get is the MIT officer was called to an 'incident', then they rob a 7-11.

Either they were wannabes, or got screwed (ie matyred) by their handler.
Posted by phil_b 2013-04-19 05:12||   2013-04-19 05:12|| Front Page Top

#18 What I don't get is the MIT officer was called to an 'incident', then they rob a 7-11.
It's not clear that the MIT officer was called to anything.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 05:15||   2013-04-19 05:15|| Front Page Top

#19 They took the MIT Officers car.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-19 05:29||   2013-04-19 05:29|| Front Page Top

#20 Dr. Richard Wolfe, chief of emergency medicine at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, just gave a news conference (about 0522) concerning the injured man treated last night, probably the dead suspect.
Dr. Wolfe stated patient arrived with CPR in progress by Boston EMS & police. Too many gunshot wounds to count, plus some kind of blast/burn injury to the trunk. No response to resuscitation & pt. pronounced dead about 0120 local time.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 05:30||   2013-04-19 05:30|| Front Page Top

#21 WHDH is showing live video of a robot examining a car in Watertown, sitting on a residential street with its doors open. Area residents have been instructed to shelter in their basements or on the side of their residents furthest away from the car in question.
MBTA has canceled its operations in the area and MIT has canceled classes. There is talk that area residents will be evacuated en masse.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 05:40||   2013-04-19 05:40|| Front Page Top

#22 I like the "too many gunshot wounds to count" bit. Good shooting guys (provided the rest of the area doesn't look like Fearless Fosdick had been there). And even then, maybe.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2013-04-19 05:42||   2013-04-19 05:42|| Front Page Top

#23 Briefing 0545.
Entire MBTA has been shut down by Gov. Patrick. Those waiting at bus & train stops told to return home.
Watertown, Newton, Waltham, Belmont, Cambridge, Allston-Brighton neighborhood residents: stay indoors. No vehicle traffic in or out of Watertown until further notice. Businesses here to remain closed.
MSP head stated he believes these suspects are the marathon bombers & killers of the MIT policeman.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 05:51||   2013-04-19 05:51|| Front Page Top

#24 Sun is up in Watertown. Near the Watertown bomb suspect vehicle, a SWAT armored vehicle has been put in a blocking position & houses across the street are being emptied of their residents while SWAT teams are going in to verify the houses are empty.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 06:09||   2013-04-19 06:09|| Front Page Top

#25 The perps sound Indian
What We Know About Sunil Tripathi
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 06:28||   2013-04-19 06:28|| Front Page Top

#26 NBC News's timeline:
Law enforcement officials said the tumult began just before 11 p.m., when the suspects approached a police officer from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and shot him in the head.
The two then stole the officer’s cruiser, robbed a nearby 7-Eleven, carjacked a Mercedes SUV and briefly kidnapped the driver, the sources said. The suspects threw explosives out the window during the chase that followed, they said.
The dead suspect — the man in the black hat from the FBI photos — had an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest, law enforcement officials said.
Andrew Kitzenberg, who lives in Watertown, said he saw the two men shooting at six police cars from 70 or 80 yards away.
“There was a long exchange of gunfire,” told NBC News in an interview. “They were also utilizing bombs, which sounded and looked like grenades, while engaging in the gunfight,” he said. “They also had what looked like a pressure-cooker bomb.”
Kitzenberg said that the firefight ended when one of the shooters ran toward the Watertown officers and ultimately fell to the ground. Kitzenberg said he could not tell whether the man was tackled or had been shot.
The other drove the SUV through a line of police offcers at the end of the street, he said. A bullet from the gunbattle lodged in the wall of Kitzenberg’s apartment, he said.
Kitzenberg said that while he had a clear view of the shooters, he could not see their faces. He described them as “average size, average height.”
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 06:29||   2013-04-19 06:29|| Front Page Top

#27 2nd Suspect captured at Charles Circle (from friend in Police)
Posted by InTheKnow 2013-04-19 06:31||   2013-04-19 06:31|| Front Page Top

#28 NBC now reports police sources saying Tripathi, who went missing from his university a few weeks ago, is NOT a suspect. Police radio had previously named Tripathi and Mike Mulugeta as the two suspects.
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 06:35||   2013-04-19 06:35|| Front Page Top

#29 Legal residents from Turkey.
Posted by Shipman 2013-04-19 06:36||   2013-04-19 06:36|| Front Page Top

#30 Boston Police - live update
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 06:44||   2013-04-19 06:44|| Front Page Top

#31 Now saying Chechens via Turkey. Legal residents evidently.
Posted by Shipman 2013-04-19 06:49||   2013-04-19 06:49|| Front Page Top

#32 AP / NBC give name of surviving suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev, age 19 or 20, originally from Chechyna, lived in Turkey before coming to USA, legal resident here for the past year, and not a student.
I found this interesting side on a foreign Facebook equivalent: http://vk.com/id160300242 Name matches (allowing for spelling uncertainty) & it looks like #2.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 06:54||   2013-04-19 06:54|| Front Page Top

#33 Text from above link gives this tag: Djohar Tsarnaev, Boston, USA. Graduated from №1 in 2001, Махачкала.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 06:56||   2013-04-19 06:56|| Front Page Top

#34 Picture of "Djohar" from that website here
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 07:02||   2013-04-19 07:02|| Front Page Top

#35 DOB of suspect per WHDH is 22 July - same as the DOB of the foreign Facebook equivalent. YOB is 1993. Am I the first one to break this?
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 07:03||   2013-04-19 07:03|| Front Page Top

#36 I think you are AH, excellent work.
Posted by Shipman 2013-04-19 07:05||   2013-04-19 07:05|| Front Page Top

#37 That Facebook page states "Djohar" is Muslim. There is video with foreign language on that site, either in Russian or Chechen.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 07:09||   2013-04-19 07:09|| Front Page Top

#38 If the dead guy had explosives on him, were they going for round 2 today? I get carrying a gun as a means of personal protection, a bomb, not so much..
Posted by IG-88 2013-04-19 07:23||   2013-04-19 07:23|| Front Page Top

#39 Quoting a comment from boston.com:
There is a page at the Russian social network VKontakte (In Contact) with the name Dzhokhar Tsarnaev living in Boston and studying at Cambridge Rindge & Latin School.

The page mentions a school in Makhachkala, the capital of the Republic of Dagestan, as a place Tsarnaev studied between 1999 and 2001.

The Tsarnaev family moved to Dagestan from Kyrgyzstan in 2001, the school spokesman told the website RT. He Dzhokhar studied there for just one year and produced no particular impression, good or bad, on the teachers.

The page has but a handful of posts, most of them jokes. The owner’s last visit of the page was from a mobile phone shortly before the shooting in Boston started.

Some Russian-language comments on the page accuse Tsarnaev of being behind the bombing. They were posted after the news of a possible connection of a Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to the bombing broke.
by Teresa Hanafin, Boston.com 7:33 AM
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 07:35||   2013-04-19 07:35|| Front Page Top

#40 http://youtu.be/0lgTvAMP2Ak
Drunken rant from someone associated with the vk.com site I mentioned earlier.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 07:56||   2013-04-19 07:56|| Front Page Top

#41 Entirety of Boston & Brookline has been advised to 'shelter in place' in addition to places previously mentioned.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 08:12||   2013-04-19 08:12|| Front Page Top

#42 Cambridge announces 2011 City Scholarship recipients Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-19 08:12||   2013-04-19 08:12|| Front Page Top

#43 BBCNews saying they are chechen background?

Look Saudi to me
Posted by Thaviger Mussolini7228 2013-04-19 08:12||   2013-04-19 08:12|| Front Page Top

#44 BBC: The suspect at large, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is 19, was born in Kyrgyzstan and has a Massachusetts driver's license, officials told NBC News. The dead suspect was identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, born in Russia, NBC added.



Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-19 08:34||   2013-04-19 08:34|| Front Page Top

#45 Deadspin has more about the dead brother, who is a boxer -- hoped to box in the Olympics for the U.S. I s'pose that's right out, now. The site links to his YouTube playlist, has pictures about his girlfriend, etc.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-04-19 08:36||   2013-04-19 08:36|| Front Page Top

#46 This is alleged to be the other T
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-19 08:41||   2013-04-19 08:41|| Front Page Top

#47 From Drudge.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-04-19 09:52||   2013-04-19 09:52|| Front Page Top

#48 Just a website security possible point of interest. A few minutes ago I want to #45 (Deadspin link) and the girl friend's picture was clearly visible. I went back 10 minutes later and it was blocked out.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 09:58||   2013-04-19 09:58|| Front Page Top

#49 bummer
MA State PD and Boston Police have requested via social media to not post search locations for the Boston bombing suspects - the Boston PD feed is temporarily offline due to this request.
Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 10:11||   2013-04-19 10:11|| Front Page Top

#50 POTUS and entire regime headed to WH situation room per Fox.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 10:15||   2013-04-19 10:15|| Front Page Top

#51 Chechen Terry's. fundy Muslims. Been killing Russians for years. Very savage bunch, posting snuff vids (beheadings mainly) to net for years. Wonder how the library media will spin this for Obama. Oh, and thanks for nothing DHS, go back to crotch checking grandmas at the airport.
Posted by Chunky Thineng7052 2013-04-19 10:32||   2013-04-19 10:32|| Front Page Top

#52 So apparently this terrorist was posting links about rebels fighting in Syria.

Looks like he's got a lot of sympathisers right here. Just like Bin Laden he's a good guy when he's killing ruskies, but bad when he turns and bites the hand that feeds.
No Yawn, killing 'ruskies' is not okay.

Killing innocents is NEVER okay. We at the Burg never advocate that.

Now then: we don't know you. From where did you come?

AoS (moderator)
Actually, we do know Yawn. In previos incarnations he was PlaneSPeeker and ChuffingChuffChuff.
Posted by Yawn 2013-04-19 10:54||   2013-04-19 10:54|| Front Page Top

#53 POTUS and entire regime headed to WH situation room per Fox.

If terrorist No. 2 gets away, he will be an inspiration to a lot of other bad guys. President Hussein will have a real domestic situation. Not Cheknya, not Afghanistan, but America full of his unabated immigrantion results.
Posted by Thaique Squank4053 2013-04-19 12:41||   2013-04-19 12:41|| Front Page Top

#54 Can't explain why, but my "Useful Idiots" alarm is really making a lot of noise about this story....
Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-04-19 13:02||   2013-04-19 13:02|| Front Page Top

#55 Governor Dooval Patrik is telling everyone:

"Stay inside. If someone approaches, DO NOT answer your door, .....move to an single access room, face the door from a corner and keep your weapon on safe."
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 13:14||   2013-04-19 13:14|| Front Page Top

#56 Now is the time to confront Totus and Congress on their idiotic immigration bill and attitudes. Their policies are getting people killed in this country and Mexico.

The administration and congress need to be held accountable for their lack of responsibility.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-04-19 13:15||   2013-04-19 13:15|| Front Page Top

#57 "POTUS and entire regime headed to WH situation room per Fox."

And I'll bet Bambi's pissed, B.

He'll have to miss his tee time, and he can't even use this bombing to call for more gun control confiscation.
Posted by Barbara 2013-04-19 13:18||   2013-04-19 13:18|| Front Page Top

#58 No Barb, Bambi and Donilon are probably discussing how they can exploit this tragedy for their own political ends.

I applaud the work of LE, but the presence of military aircraft and National Guard personnel should be of concern to all of us. This is now one fok'n bad guy, not a Russian Parachute Regiment.

I hope there is no connection between para 1 and para 2 above.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 13:30||   2013-04-19 13:30|| Front Page Top

#59 Barb, I hate to disillusion you but they are ALREADY using this to call for more gun confiscation.

They shot that MIT guard and shot at the other police. Some of the usual suspects up here in Massholia have restarted that drum beat.
Posted by AlanC 2013-04-19 13:44||   2013-04-19 13:44|| Front Page Top

#60 Just like Bin Laden he's a good guy when he's killing ruskies [sic], but bad when he turns and bites the hand that feeds.

If by "killing ruskies", you're referring to bin Ladin's time with the mujahideen in Afghanistan, I'll remind you there was a little thing called the Cold War going on then, where the objective was to keep the Soviet Union from expanding. The 'Russkies" were military personnel, not civilians. Old history to most, especially to the rampant vapid in the U.K., I know. But that's the way it was.

By most account (including one source here) Osama bin Ladin was more of a support/financier who tended not to be at the 'front', but that's rather beside the point. The point is, when your pet goes feral, you put it down. No apologies for that.

Actually, we do know Yawn. In previos incarnations he was PlaneSPeeker and ChuffingChuffChuff.

Oh. Then in that case I'll modify my remark to "deliberately and rampantly vapid in the U.K.".
Posted by Pappy 2013-04-19 14:20||   2013-04-19 14:20|| Front Page Top

#61 As it turns out, with 20/20 hindsight, it might have been better to let the Russians have Afghanistan.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-04-19 16:18||   2013-04-19 16:18|| Front Page Top

#62 Everybody thought we'd won a great victory when the Ruskies had to leave Afghanistan but it kinda makes me think about this quote from the movie Charlie Wilson's War:

A boy is given a horse on his 14th birthday. Everyone in the village says, “Oh how wonderful.” But a Zen master who lives in the village says, “We'll see.” 'The boy falls off the horse and breaks his foot. Everyone in the village says, “Oh how awful.” The Zen master says, “We'll see.” The village is thrown into war and all the young men have to go to war. But, because of the broken foot, the boy stays behind. Everyone says, “Oh, how wonderful.” The Zen master says, “We'll see.”
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-04-19 16:22||   2013-04-19 16:22|| Front Page Top

#63 BTW, I'd let the Ruskies have Chechnya too. Tell 'em to do with it as they see fit.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-04-19 16:23||   2013-04-19 16:23|| Front Page Top

#64 The Russians appear to be putting the jihadists thru the meat grinder in Syria. Perhaps they are on to something ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 16:49||   2013-04-19 16:49|| Front Page Top

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