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2013-02-12 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
The View From Israel: Obama Visit To Prevent Strike On Iran
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Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 The main purpose of US President Barack Obama's visit to Israel in the spring is to warn Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu against attacking Iran,

If the Israelis had a sense of humor, they would do it in the middle of BHO's visit. "It was a dark and stormy night..."
Posted by SteveS 2013-02-12 00:20||   2013-02-12 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Is that before, or after, "Sequestration" kicks in???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-12 01:20||   2013-02-12 01:20|| Front Page Top

#3 We're supposed to believe that O chose a face to face confrontation? Instead of.
(i) Promulgating an Imperial decree from a podium on front of a WH.
(ii) If he doesn't want the details to be public, sending a flunky to inform the quarrelsome Judeans of the Imperial will.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-12 02:12||   2013-02-12 02:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Does this mean he'll have to stay on in Israel? What about Michelle, Grans, and the kids ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-12 03:59||   2013-02-12 03:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Besoeker e's all yours.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-12 08:08||   2013-02-12 08:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Could you be bribed g(r)om? I have coupons for a tour of a brewery only a short flight away....
Posted by Besoeker 2013-02-12 08:12||   2013-02-12 08:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Ok. You got me. Now what have you got to offer 6000000 other Israelis?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-12 08:19||   2013-02-12 08:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Well, there are all those American Jews who voted for him .....
Posted by lotp 2013-02-12 10:01||   2013-02-12 10:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Ever been getting ready to go out on the town and meet up with a date, and that guy you know but don't really like knocks on the door, comes on in, grabs a beer, plops on the couch, and tells you to have a good one when you politely state your plans.
Posted by swksvolFF 2013-02-12 10:30||   2013-02-12 10:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, there are all those American Jews who voted for him .....

Meaning what, exactly?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-12 11:16||   2013-02-12 11:16|| Front Page Top

#11 We've managed to turn otherwise intelligence people into low information voter.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-02-12 11:31||   2013-02-12 11:31|| Front Page Top

#12 If the Israelis had a sense of humor, they would do it in the middle of BHO's visit

If the Israelis had a sense of humor, Mr. Netanyahu would have a pressing visit to Canada at that time.
Posted by Pappy 2013-02-12 11:51||   2013-02-12 11:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Bibi: "Piss off, kid."
Posted by Muggsy Mussolini1226 2013-02-12 12:29||   2013-02-12 12:29|| Front Page Top

#14 Paul Mirengoff has an opinion on the subject:

I don’t put too much stock in this report. No doubt Obama and Netanyahu will discuss Iran, and no doubt Obama will argue against an Israeli strike. But whether Obama’s visit is primarily motivated by fear that Netanyahu is poised to strike Iran, as opposed to a desire to intercede on behalf of the Palestinians, remains unclear.

But this much seems clear: Netanyahu would be a fool to step aside and let Obama “handle matters with the Iranians according to [Obama's] understanding.” And this too: if Obama wanted to instill that kind of trust in Netanyahu, he should have nominated someone other than Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-12 12:35||   2013-02-12 12:35|| Front Page Top

#15 the whole thing is a moot point ... at this moment. Given the latest N-test in N. Korea it's a pretty good bet that the Iranians know exactly what their bomb design needs to be. For all we know - they may be putting the finishing touches on their first nuke weapon today. If Bibi doesn't hit Iran in the next 2 weeks ... then Israel may as well settle in and live with a new Cold War in the ME.
Posted by Raider 2013-02-12 14:19||   2013-02-12 14:19|| Front Page Top

#16 And Iran sends a proxy nuke around the horn for Israel. This is getting to be a Roentgen game of chicken on the Iranians' part.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-02-12 16:55||   2013-02-12 16:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Raider that's awfully pessimistic. What about that huge plant explosion in Iran? Wasn't that the main Processing site?
Posted by Charles 2013-02-12 21:09||   2013-02-12 21:09|| Front Page Top

#18 Charles ... I suppose my comment was pessimistic. But I have seen no confirmation that there really was an accident at Fordow. I have been assuming that by now Mossad would leak out some details of a major accident at Fordow ... if one occurred. It is in Israel's interests to report mishaps within Iran. Likewise, even scientific organizations that have access to satellite photo's should be able to confirm activity at Fordow that is consistent with a rescue scene at a major disaster. We have heard absolutely nothing. Hence, with a lack of corroboration I have been assuming that the reports of a major problem are overblown.
Posted by Raider 2013-02-12 23:50||   2013-02-12 23:50|| Front Page Top

#19 AFAIK the Bammer hasn't revoked or taken back his March 2013 deadline for Iran to formally put its NucProg under UN IAEA Supervision - the March 2013 deadline per se would be moot iff Japan + China start a shooting war oer in NE Asia.

IMO Benji will likely wait until after March deadline has passed - March or after will also give him + Tel Aviv time to analyze the effects of "sequestration" cuts on the US = USDOD's to support Israel or carry out Iran attack.

ALA "ARAB/ISLAMIC/MUSLIM SPRING" REGIONAL + TRANS-REGIONAL WAVE, A WANNABE OR DE FACTO NUCLEAR IRAN IS NO LONGER ISRAEL'S ONLY EXISTENTIAL OR NUCLEAR THREAT/PROB IN THE NIDDLE EAST, + Israel can't fight all of them even wid US help, e.g. US-led GMD-TMD no matter how effective the latter.

The US-West cannnot do nothing - they must maintain a potent MilPol presence in the ME + North Afriqque, etc. just for simple, all-around Nuclear Deterrence for the sake of both Israel + themselves.

Again, RISING IRAN = RISING CHINA = WILL OBAMA MAKE UNILATERAL HE-KEPT-US-OUT-OF-WAR/NUCLEAR WAR CONCESSIONS TO IRAN THAT WON'T BE ACCEPTED OR TOLERATED BY BOTH THE US MAINSTREAM/
ELECTORATE + US OVERSEAS ALLIES???

Iff Iran = China concedes > GOOD FOR US-SPECIFIC "SOLE" SOVEREIGNTY + GEOPOL CREDIBILITY, BAD FOR ANTI-US GLOBALISTS + ANTI-US OWG + NAU 2015; iff Iran = China does not concede = war?, BAD FOR US "SOLE SOVEREIGNTY + GEOPOL CREDIBILITY, GOOD FOR ANTI-US GLOBALISTS + ANTI-US OWG + NAU 2015.

* CHINA-DEFENSE-MASHUP > NAVY LEADER SAYS BUDGET ISSUES TO THREATEN READINESS.

Once again, as per poten "sequestration" cuts, the USS "GEORGE WASHINGTON" CVN + Battle Group may be the USDOD-Navy's ONE-N-ONLY OVERSEAS DEPLOYABLE CARRIER IN CASE OF INTERNATIONAL CRISIS/CRISES.

"MIGHTY GEORGE" = "GLOBALIST/GREEN GEORGE"???

[North-Korea-vs-Mighty-George here].

* RELATED WAFF > [StrategyPage] RUSSIA CREATES HYPER-SPEED HARPOON, Air-to-Ground/Surface TLCM.

IIUC, 2.5X the Speed, but only 1/3rd the distance or range of the older, slower US-MADE "HARPOON". OTOH DATS WHY CHINA HAS DF-21 ASBMS/ACBMS + NORTH KOREA HAS HIGH RIDGES + MOUNTAINS.

Lest we fergit, CHINA was time back mulling converting YUAN-class strategic subs to carry anti-Carrier SLBMS + SLCMS, + construction of multi-armed ARSENAL/FIRE SHIPS???

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CAN OBAMA DO A NIXON-TO-CHINA ON IRAN?

1972's "Ping-Pong" Nixon/Tse-Tung Diplomacy = 2013"s "Soccer/Jalai/Cricket" Diplomacy. I can think of other, ethnically-correct traditional games but AFAIK the US doesn't have a team that knows or plays such. FORREST GUMP + PADDLE, I'M LOOKING AT YOU!

* SAME > [AsiaSociety.org] MABUHANI: CHINA NOT PREPARED TO BE WORLD #1, US NOT READY TO BE WORLD #2.

* STRATEGYPAGE > TERRORISTS CLOSER TO GRABBING A [Pakistani]NUKE.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [CNBC.com] ECONOMIST PETE SCHIFF: US WILL WIN THE [Global] CURRENCY WAR, BUT THEN IMPLODE.

* CHINESE DAILY FORUM > US ECONOMY [+ Govt-Politicos] IS NOW DANGEROUSLYD ETACHED FROM REALITY.

* DAILY TIMES.PK > US MUST CHANGE BEFORE DIRECT TALKS: AHMADINEJAD.

Khamenei, FM, + now Moud.

IRAN = CHINA = DRAWING "LINES IN THE OCEAN/WATER", NOT "LINES IN THE SAND"???

Iran 3, Bammer = USA 0???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-13 00:41||   2013-02-13 00:41|| Front Page Top

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