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2013-01-10 Government
Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns
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Posted by Fred 2013-01-10 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10801 views ]  Top

#1 When the police wear military style attire; drones are used to conduct domestic monitoring of citizens; the army is quietly given the power to detain without warrant or trial; and Federal Law Enforcement is on the scene at nearly every major crime;.... you have entered in a POLICE STATE!
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 04:05||   2013-01-10 04:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Using Biden as a front man, does NOT make the idea either legal OR practical, just dishonest.

(But we expected that, he's NOT what was elected.)
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-10 09:25||   2013-01-10 09:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Biden, the guy with the unconnected laughter and pin-ball eyes during the debates, is the front guy; the guy who could easily be mistaken for the Aurora shooter. Just needs the orange plugs. This is the administration that trafficked in illegal firearms with the drug cartels in Mexico and the Syrian rebels? It is now about 4 months and we still have had no transparency on Benghazi. They expect the American people to take them seriously or trust them.
Posted by JohnQC 2013-01-10 09:38||   2013-01-10 09:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Just a reminder -- the excuse for the last 30 years for instituting a police state has been the war on drugs.
Posted by Iblis 2013-01-10 10:46||   2013-01-10 10:46|| Front Page Top

#5 "The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 15:08||   2013-01-10 15:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Constitution of the State of Kansas

ยง 4. Individual right to bear arms; armies. A person has the right to keep
and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and state, for lawful
hunting and recreational use, and for any other lawful purpose ; but
standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not
be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.''
Posted by swksvolFF 2013-01-10 15:12||   2013-01-10 15:12|| Front Page Top

#7 swksvolFF:

Your post reminds me of a good interpretation of the 2nd Amendment -- something I have never really seen before.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


"We recognize that the government must maintain armed police and troops, but we are also concerned about the government potentially abusing its arms, so we hereby guarantee the right of all US citizens to keep and bear arms as a bulwark against such abuse."

I like this modern day interpretation of the framers' words -- it doesn't ignore the militia part or render it redundant, and the framers did not waste words.
Posted by Iblis 2013-01-10 15:56||   2013-01-10 15:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The Tiny Dot
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 16:04||   2013-01-10 16:04|| Front Page Top

#9 lblis:
That amendment was re-worded from a statement similar to how we know the US 2nd into this language in 2010 by 86% voting. The counter-grumbling was that why can't a militia peacably meet and practice so long as laws were obeyed. It does add in the In Times of Peace.

En similar, h/t weaselzipper, there is a proposed law in Wyoming threatening arrest of any federal agent attempting any gun control. Looked it up, WY's Constitution Sec. 37 states the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, citing the 10th and the 2nd as making such a proposal lawful under the state Constitution.
Posted by swksvolFF 2013-01-10 16:31||   2013-01-10 16:31|| Front Page Top

#10 Drip...
Posted by AlanC 2013-01-10 16:42||   2013-01-10 16:42|| Front Page Top

#11 They are about to make us all criminals by executive order. King Obama! Hail King Obama!
Posted by 49 Pan 2013-01-10 16:58||   2013-01-10 16:58|| Front Page Top

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-01-10 17:55||   2013-01-10 17:55|| Front Page Top

#13 #10 Drip...
Knocl itoff Alan C , we got it.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-10 21:06||   2013-01-10 21:06|| Front Page Top

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