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2012-10-09 Economy
Gov. Brown takes emergency action to try to reduce gas prices
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Posted by Fred 2012-10-09 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336066 views ]  Top

#1 IOW, more Policies-Regulation, NOT less.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-10-09 02:43||   2012-10-09 02:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Simple and easy, just eliminate YOUR "Tax" and the price reverts to normal.
See how easy that was?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2012-10-09 06:23||   2012-10-09 06:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Jerry, the high prices are a direct consequence of your policies. You do believe in your policies, right? Tell them: the high prices are good for you - you'll pay and like it!
Posted by Spot 2012-10-09 08:13||   2012-10-09 08:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Fox is reporting gas prices are reaching $6.oo per gallon. I guess this is one way to keep people from leaving California.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-09 08:35||   2012-10-09 08:35|| Front Page Top

#5 The gas prices might turn the state light pink if they don't do something. Perhaps it won't change a lot of votes but it will suppress turnout for one team and increase it for the other which is the same effect. Thus Brown and Feinstein reacting quickly and blaming others.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-10-09 08:47||   2012-10-09 08:47|| Front Page Top

#6 If I were Mitt I'd play adds with the Obama energy secretary saying they might have to raise gas prices up to $4 to force people into greener ways or whatever he said. Just let his words do the talking, and then say you can judge a politician by those they surround themselves with. Boom. Let people fill in the rest themselves.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-10-09 08:48||   2012-10-09 08:48|| Front Page Top

#7 ..a lot of people "can't" leave because they're stuck with property and mortgages that won't sale. Instead of allowing the banks and leading institutions fail and let the price of the paper float to its natural level, the peasants have literally been tied to the land to protect those institutions. If you try to leave the land, you'll be financially punished. Welcome to government implemented 21st Century Serfdom.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-10-09 08:53||   2012-10-09 08:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Why is Jerry worried about high gas prices? When prices are high, people drive less. This leads to less air pollution, which is a good thing. He should stand firm and add additional taxes to make (poor) people drive even less.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2012-10-09 09:04||   2012-10-09 09:04|| Front Page Top

#9 This leads to less air pollution, which is a good thing. He should stand firm and add additional taxes to make (poor) people drive even less. Posted by Rambler in Virginia

I recommend mileage taxes be levied... based on "need" of course. Oh wait!

Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-09 09:08||   2012-10-09 09:08|| Front Page Top

#10 Jerry is concerned with his job, legacy and party. He doesn't want to be the Gov that lost California to the republicans and i believe high gas prices are the one thing that could do that if not dealt with fast. We have tolerated high gas before but this is insane and at a time where consumers can lash out.
Posted by Rjschwarz 2012-10-09 10:04||   2012-10-09 10:04|| Front Page Top

#11 It's all a phony move.

The regulators tightened the screws on the gas refineries to deliberately jack up prices. Higher prices = higher sales tax revenue. A short term way to generate extra cash to cover the budget deficit.

He could cut gas prices in half by mandating changes to the crazy crap multiple gas blend stuff, having six or seven different blends in one state, and with one or two blends, gas prices would drop like a rock but then so would the sales tax revenue.

Nothing is a coincidence, everything they do is carefully planned. They are very astute economists and this turmoil in our economy is deliberate.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-10-09 10:37||   2012-10-09 10:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Seems to me that they are drowning in their red tape and regulations now. Swim Brown. If you can.
Posted by DarthVader 2012-10-09 13:49||   2012-10-09 13:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Mitt needs to run a quick ad in Caliphornia showing the tape of Bambi declaring that "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket under my plan" - then show a couple of Cali gas stations' signs.

Make sure at least one of them is a brand name, not cut-rate.

Then, maybe, run the tape of Bambi saying "I'll have more flexibility after the election" if there's time.
Posted by Barbara 2012-10-09 15:41||   2012-10-09 15:41|| Front Page Top

#14 So..what does that do to the winter supply?
Posted by swksvolFF 2012-10-09 15:51||   2012-10-09 15:51|| Front Page Top

#15 Apparantly it extends the supply by up to 25%. We dont use the winter mix during summer because it causes a lot of engine knocking and pinging. Or so i am told.
Posted by Rjschwarz 2012-10-09 16:10||   2012-10-09 16:10|| Front Page Top

#16 1920's

The answer to combustion engine knocking noise led the GM scientists early 1920s to recommend adding a lead compound, tetraethyl lead, to gasoline. It will cost a bit more, but quiet down the engine and make it run more efficiently.


Leaded gasoline was phased out in the US from 1975-1986. Unleaded gasoline will cost a bit more (gotta get the lead out you know), but your car will run cleaner and more efficiently.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-09 16:20||   2012-10-09 16:20|| Front Page Top

#17 2010

Adding bio fuel to gasoline will raise the cost of gas and food but your tank will be fuller and both your stomach and wallet will be thinner.
Posted by Airandee 2012-10-09 18:16||   2012-10-09 18:16|| Front Page Top

#18 "We dont use the winter mix during summer because it causes a lot of engine knocking and pinging."

How do the engines know what the season is, rj?
Posted by Barbara 2012-10-09 19:18||   2012-10-09 19:18|| Front Page Top

#19 Summer-grade fuel has a different Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) than winter-grade fuel, which contributes to its being (marginally) more eco-friendly. RVP is the vapor pressure of gasoline measured at 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Fuels with higher RVP evaporate more easily than those with lower RVP. A particular fuel blend's RVP is based on the combined RVP of the ingredients that make up the blend. Regulators worry about this evaporation because it contributes to ozone formation.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-10-09 19:32||   2012-10-09 19:32|| Front Page Top

#20 I suspect engines run slightly hotter in the summer and that causes knocking and pinging but I'm guessing since my info on winter blend was third person and not my expertise.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-10-09 21:02||   2012-10-09 21:02|| Front Page Top

#21 I guess I'm wondering if there is winter mix stowed away, being tapped, and IIUC CA gasoline must originate in CA, if CA refinaries are currently on summer blend, will that make the buggering harder and dryer in a month or two - whenever the usual switch would take place?
Posted by swksvolFF 2012-10-09 21:44||   2012-10-09 21:44|| Front Page Top

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