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2012-03-02 Afghanistan

U.S. Ambassador Doesn't Rule Out 'Proceedings' Against U.S. Troops Who Burned Qurans

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Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-02 03:18|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Karzai went on Afghan television and told his country he had discussed the Quran burning with "jihadi leaders," scholars and elected officials.

According to a BBC translation of his remarks, Karzai said: "Representing the Afghan nation and their pure sentiments, in fact the Islamic world, once again we call on the U.S. government to bring the perpetrators of the act to justice and put them on trial and punish them."
YCMTSU

Posted by tipper 2012-03-02 07:02|| 2012-03-02 07:02|| Front Page Top

#2 I suggest putting the commander in chief on trial.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-03-02 07:09|| 2012-03-02 07:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Let us discover that it was indeed a plant by a clever boots local, and put him on trial.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-02 07:25|| 2012-03-02 07:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Are the Afghanis going to try the people who murdered Americans?

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2012-03-02 07:34|| 2012-03-02 07:34|| Front Page Top

#5 The troops who burned the Korans were following lawful orders. Those who ordered the Korans burned did so because they also contained written radical information of use to the enemy. "Burning Radical Islamic Material".

Posted by Anonymoose 2012-03-02 08:29|| 2012-03-02 08:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Recall a moment the events at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. A few members of a military police unit behaved in ways that were completely inappropriate. It was clear that they had lax oversight and command review.

The response of the left and the MSM (BIRM)? They demanded that the entire chain of command, up to and (especially) including Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, be held accountable.

Okay, now fast forward to the Koran burning. We don't even know if this was inappropriate. But notice how the left and the MSM are NOT calling for anyone in the chain of command to be punished, and are instead proffering up the individuals assigned to burn the books.

Posted by Steve White 2012-03-02 08:41|| 2012-03-02 08:41|| Front Page Top

#7 who are the jihadi leaders?

Posted by Gruth McGurque5303 2012-03-02 08:55|| 2012-03-02 08:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Quote From Susan Brown:
CBS News reported February 21, 2012 that an anonymous "military official with knowledge of the incident" said it appeared the Qurans and "other Islamic readings were being used to fuel extremism, and that detainees at Parwan Detention Facility were writing on the documents to exchange extremist messages."
Representative Allen West (R-FL) who was appointed to both the House Armed Services Committee and Emerging Threats and Capabilities Subcommittee concurs with the CBS report. In his February 26, 2012 newsletter, West said the Parwan detainees "used the Koran [Quran] to write jihadist messages."
Based on this information, the detainees, and not the military, are to blame for the incident because they defiled their own sacred books, hence violating both Islamic cultural practices and the Parwan Detention facility contraband rules.
According to the same CBS report, Islamic teaching mandates that defiled Qurans be "burned or buried" meaning there is much ado about nothing because the military followed Islamic teaching as well as their own procedures for disposal of contraband.

Why did it ever get so overblown when those that know proper procedures and the *sskissing that has gone on to appease the natives, including Amb. Crocker, could have all nipped this in the bud and instead they are fanning the flames. Sounds orchestrated to me....Zawahiri? Soros? Who else profits from bringing America down and playing into the UN's agenda of global governance?

Posted by Omoluque Hapsburg8162 2012-03-02 11:26|| 2012-03-02 11:26|| Front Page Top

#9 The way things are now, I wouldn't be surprised to see soldiers tried for this. I would be surprised, but not shocked to see them handed over for prosecution in Afghan courts. I think it will probably happen sooner or later.

Posted by bigjim-CA 2012-03-02 13:16|| 2012-03-02 13:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Dunno much about UCMJ so I have a question: Will they be obligated to follow the orders up the chain of command?

Or, how about this: the military officials end up releasing an official finding that the burning was proper and justified? Who, then, would apologize?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2012-03-02 13:47|| 2012-03-02 13:47|| Front Page Top

#11 At the highest level, we are in a policy Wonderland, where we will quite willingly drone-zap a suspect based on apparent behavior as view from afar, but are deeply concerned about offending people for doing exactly what their religion defines as the proper method for destroying holy writ that their own adherents defiled. Worse, we kowtow instead of asserting the appropriateness of our acts.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2012-03-02 14:01|| 2012-03-02 14:01|| Front Page Top

#12 Ambassador asshat, STFU.

Posted by newc 2012-03-02 14:33|| 2012-03-02 14:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Time to go.

Posted by regular joe 2012-03-02 16:48|| 2012-03-02 16:48|| Front Page Top

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