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2011-12-06 Home Front: Culture Wars

NAACP Goes To UN To Demand Felon And ID-less Voting In US

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Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-06 08:17|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Richardson v. Ramirez, 418 U.S. 24 (1974), held that convicted felons could be barred from voting without violating the Fourteenth Amendment.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-06 08:22|| 2011-12-06 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181 (2008) was a United States Supreme Court case holding that an Indiana law requiring voters to provide photo IDs did not violate the Constitution of the United States.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-06 08:25|| 2011-12-06 08:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Ah, but those cases did not address the issue of race!

But I see they decided they couldn't get a fair hearing in this country, so they took their case to the magisterial United Nations.

Last time I voted, I was asked to have a picture ID. But I am not a person of color. But all the people looking at my ID were!

Posted by Bobby 2011-12-06 08:39|| 2011-12-06 08:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Clean thy own house.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-12-06 08:46|| 2011-12-06 08:46|| Front Page Top

#5 This is outrageous on so many levels. First, it is outrageous that any organization in the U.S. would petition a failed, corrupt organization that sucks up our taxpayer's money. Second, It is outrageous that the NAACP would petition to allow people to vote without presenting any form of ID. Apparently, they want voter fraud on a huge scale. Not only NO, but HELL NO.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-12-06 10:05|| 2011-12-06 10:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Presenting no form of ID and the fraud that would ensue would disenfranchise other legitimate voters.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-12-06 10:07|| 2011-12-06 10:07|| Front Page Top

#7 The war to allow vote fraud has been flaring for years now. EJDionne of the WaPo editorialized that voter ID laws are vote suppressing. The Sec of State of GA, responded that the number of blacks voting increased substantially from 2004 to 2008 (by over 100%) and from 2006 to 2010 (by about 20 40%) notwithstanding the 2005 voter ID law in GA.
Then the pro vote fraud people countered by finding a state (NC) where the 2006 to 2010 black vote increased more than in GA.

It will be a long battle.

Posted by Lord Garth 2011-12-06 10:52|| 2011-12-06 10:52|| Front Page Top

#8 bank on DEMOCRATS getting behind this.

Posted by newc 2011-12-06 11:02|| 2011-12-06 11:02|| Front Page Top

#9 I don't think letting felons vote again is such a bad idea. I wouldn't let them vote while doing time but I would return that right after they paid their dues to society - let them try to be a citizen again.

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2011-12-06 11:23|| 2011-12-06 11:23|| Front Page Top

#10 We are watching the fall of the United States of America. A congress divided, outside political organizations influencing our laws, total disregard for the constitution by the president, the supreme court as a political tool, government funded agitators (ACORN), media involvement and mandates to influence, etc etc... There are only a few ways to recover, Civil war, a wave of nationalism, or separation of the states from the federal government. We as a nation are standing at the abyss. UGGGG

Posted by 49 Pan 2011-12-06 11:28|| 2011-12-06 11:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Yosemite Sam: There are two primary reasons for disenfranchising felons from voting.

The first, and most important, is that felons are a willing and able group of thugs to corrupt the voting process through *illegal* means, such as tampering, voter intimidation, and every other *illegal* dirty political stunt imaginable. And they have been used for these purposes before.

Remember also that the same people advocating the felon vote want to strip workers from even having the right to an Australian (secret) ballot in union elections. So "fairness" is not an issue, political power is the issue.

The second reason to deny felons the vote is the distinction of misdemeanor and felony crime. Traditionally, felony crimes were punishable either by death or confiscation of all properties, in that a criminal had committed an irrevocable and destructive act against others or the state.

In many cases, felons were branded so they could easily be recognized by others and shunned as harmful and dangerous people. There was no chance for redemption outside of the very rare pardon.

America, however, has sort of gone hog wild with creating new laws, so truly petty offenses are now treated as felonies.

However, this is why we have judges. After a convict has served their sentence, they may appeal to the court for restoration of their lost liberties.

Mostly they want guns, and judges are very lenient for non-violent offenders in restoring their gun rights. Second is they want their record expunged at the state level, for reasons of employment. Expungement incorporates the third most requested restoration, voting rights, which can be made independently of expungement, if the judge refuses.

However, this is not what the advocates of felon enfranchisement want. They want voting rights for those felons that judges would *not* restore, either because they are heinous and/or repeat offenders, or because their crimes are political in nature.

That is going back to the first reason.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-06 12:32|| 2011-12-06 12:32|| Front Page Top

#12 First of all they are making the statement that such things as Voter Id disenfranchises Black and Latino votes. Note that they did not say 'legal' voters - but *any* voters - illegals, Imaginary, Duplicate, and Felons.

And going to the U.N. Human Rights Commission? That is made up of some of the worst Human Rights Violators on the planet?

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-06 12:48|| 2011-12-06 12:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Felons can restore their rights and vote. It is not unreasonable to ask a person for ID at the polls. Otherwise you don't know if they are legitimate voters; they could be illegal aliens or felons who have not restored their rights or they might not be of age.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-12-06 17:01|| 2011-12-06 17:01|| Front Page Top

#14 I can see why the NAACP would go to the UN over voter ID, now that the more important (at least to the NAACP, I'm sure) issue of slavery around the world - particularly in Africa and the Arab countries - has been completely banned and stopped by the UN.

After all, now that there are no longer people being sold and held in slavery anywhere in the world, the NAACP can turn to slightly less important issues.

Oh, wait....

Posted by Barbara 2011-12-06 17:53|| 2011-12-06 17:53|| Front Page Top

#15 The UN can let them vote in the UN elections.

...Oh, never mind...

Posted by BrerRabbit 2011-12-06 18:12|| 2011-12-06 18:12|| Front Page Top

#16 Also, don't allow those EVIL Republicans to disenfranchise the dead.

Posted by Cincinnatus Chili 2011-12-06 19:00|| 2011-12-06 19:00|| Front Page Top

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