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2011-09-12 Arabia

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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-09-12 10:22|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 How can we lose something we never had?

Posted by DarthVader 2011-09-12 11:13|| 2011-09-12 11:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh, baby, baby, please don't leave me.

Posted by Perfesser 2011-09-12 11:42|| 2011-09-12 11:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Stuff it, Turki.

More "allies" like the House of Saud we DON'T need.

Posted by Guillibaldo Hatrack1304 2011-09-12 12:12|| 2011-09-12 12:12|| Front Page Top

#4 They're not a state and you're not an ally.

Next?

Posted by Barbara 2011-09-12 12:38|| 2011-09-12 12:38|| Front Page Top

#5 Saudi Arabia is running out of oil, so it is said, and they have absolutely nothing to replace it with, even as the expense of supporting an under-educated, over-proud, severely inbred, rapidly growing dependent population continues to increase dramatically. We won't even mention the growing hordes of little scions of the House of Saud, each of whom has expectations commensurate with his bloodline.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-09-12 13:26|| 2011-09-12 13:26|| Front Page Top

#6 KSA does still have one thing to fall back on once the oil is gone - Mecca. Millions of Muslims making the haj provide a good deal of cash for the religious powerful to skim. Won't help the non-elite though.

Posted by Glenmore 2011-09-12 13:45|| 2011-09-12 13:45|| Front Page Top

#7 but al-Faisal uses it as a set-up line...

So this guy al-Faisal and the Palestinian bid for statehood walk into a bar. Al-Faisal says, "Support this bid for statehood or lose all credibility in the Arab world!"
...crickets...

Man, that sucks as a setup line.

Posted by SteveS 2011-09-12 17:05|| 2011-09-12 17:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Perfesser: I think a more appropriate track was their European only release "You're Gettin' Even While I'm Gettin' Odd", which is a very strange song indeed. Very slow and technical intro before the band comes in.

It was released after Peter Wolf left the band.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-09-12 17:39|| 2011-09-12 17:39|| Front Page Top

#9 Jive Turki Aug 2005:
Very well. But there are other indications that Prince Turki, who has served since 2003 as the Saudi Ambassador to the United Kingdom and Ireland, and before that for twenty-four years as the head of Istakhbarat, the Saudi intelligence service, may not be all that he appears to be. Janes Intelligence Review noted in 2001 that Turki, along with Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, was one of the early mentors of Osama bin Laden. Turki does not deny that he knew Osama well -- well enough to describe his behavior in some detail: At that time I would describe him as gentle and self-effacing, and hardly talking to anyone. Very shy. He added in a 2004 interview in Der Spiegel that Osamas presence, dignified and reserved, must have made an impression on the Afghans back then. But now the Prince distances himself from what Osama has become: There has been a remarkable transformation. Now he is in a self-deluding, maniacal stage where he believes that he is the anointed of God and everybody else is in league with the devil.

But when does Turki think that Osama stopped being dignified and become self-deluded and maniacal? Thats unclear. According to the Times of London in 2002, the Prince participated in a 1998 meeting which led to the deal between Saudi Arabia and the Taliban. Those present included Prince Turki al-Faisal al-Saud, then chief of the Istakhbarat, Taliban leaders, senior officers from Pakistans ISI secret service and Bin Laden. At that meeting, the Saudis paid at least £200m to Osama Bin Ladens terror group and the Taliban in exchange for an agreement that his forces would not attack targets in Saudi Arabia. The Washington Times lent credence to this with another salient detail: A bin Laden bodyguard, interviewed by the Arabic newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi, said Prince Turki met the al Qaeda leader as many as five times in the 1980s and 1990s. He was part of a number of Saudi delegations in the 1990s which were aimed at persuading bin Laden to end his jihad against the kingdom. Against the kingdom, mind you, not against anyone else.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-09-12 17:39|| 2011-09-12 17:39|| Front Page Top

#10 A state is responsible for their own citizens and if rockets come from the territory of a state it is an act of war. Much simpler math than what we currently have. The US and Israel should support a Palestinian state and make things clear that if such a state attacks they will not only roll it into dust but salt the earth and displace the population.

Posted by rjschwarz 2011-09-12 20:00|| 2011-09-12 20:00|| Front Page Top

#11 The United States must support the Palestinian bid for statehood at the United Nations this month or risk losing the little credibility it has in the Arab world.

If there we have so little credibility in the Arab world why "must" we support Palestinian statehood?

Oh, it is the NYTs -- a sinking ship among the few remaining MSM rags.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-09-12 20:08|| 2011-09-12 20:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry about the bold blitz. Ignore.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-09-12 20:09|| 2011-09-12 20:09|| Front Page Top

#13 "Excitable Boy, they all said"

/Warren Zevon

:-) JQC

Posted by Frank G 2011-09-12 20:26|| 2011-09-12 20:26|| Front Page Top

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