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2011-01-19 Home Front: WoT

Teen detained in Kuwait sues US over no-fly list

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Posted by Steve White 2011-01-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Do not fly means just that.
He could walk or swim.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-01-19 00:17|| 2011-01-19 00:17|| Front Page Top

#2 I wonder if he is going to sue Kuwaitis for alleged torture.
Do you wanna bet?

Posted by vendaval 2011-01-19 00:27|| 2011-01-19 00:27|| Front Page Top

#3 If we had a CIA worth anything we'd be spreading the rumor that the kid is a Shi'a sympathizer.

Posted by Steve White 2011-01-19 00:46|| 2011-01-19 00:46|| Front Page Top

#4 If he really wanted to come he'd fly to Canada or Mexico and rent a car.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-19 07:22|| 2011-01-19 07:22|| Front Page Top

#5 I think, maybe, he is on the assassination list. I think everyone is pissed off because he did not go back to Yemen.

Posted by tipper 2011-01-19 09:24|| 2011-01-19 09:24|| Front Page Top

#6 The Washington Examiner adds:

Lawyers with the Council on American-Islamic Relations filed the complaint Tuesday in federal court in Alexandria. The lawsuit names Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director Robert Mueller and Terrorist Screening Center Director Timothy Healy as defendants.

The lawsuit says he went abroad in March 2009 to study Arabic and see family living abroad.

He went to Yemen and Somalia, then Kuwait, where he had been living with an uncle since August 2009. He had renewed his visitor's visa there twice before, the suit says.

If he's 19 now, he was 17 when he left... in March of that year. The timing is queer: in the middle of the second semester of (probably) his junior year of high school. Surely it's more normal to wait until after he graduated from high school in the U.S. to do additional language studies abroad. And, had it been an exchange student thing it would have been bang on the semester at the end of January, then he would have been sent home by the end of the summer to finish up his high school program.

I don't think I want him back, either.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-01-19 09:57|| 2011-01-19 09:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Truthfully, the no-fly list is very screwed up. All sorts of government agencies can submit to it, but nobody is responsible for it, and it is next to impossible to error check or correct it. Note that it is different from the Selectee List and the Terrorist Watchlist.

It is and has been used to deport US citizens while effectively stripping them of their citizenship, without hearing or recourse. While no doubt some of them richly deserve it, doing sneaky "end-arounds" of a log jammed an inefficient process evades the real problem, which is the process.

And when creating these, they didn't even bother to amend the Privacy Act of 1974, which forbids the government to compile secret databases on U.S. citizens. So technically there are major legal conflicts.

On the plus side, apparently some mad bomber was named Theodore Kennedy, so guess who got on the list half a dozen times? Likewise, retired senior US military officers and at least on US Marine serving in Dubai have been blocked from reentry.

Fortunately, the Pentagon does not give a crap what the TSA thinks.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-01-19 10:14|| 2011-01-19 10:14|| Front Page Top

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