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2010-11-27 International-UN-NGOs

WikiLeaks Urges Public to Download Insurance File

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Posted by tipper 2010-11-27 01:09|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 SO what does the Rapist in charge of WikiLeaks thnk will save him?

Posted by OldSpook 2010-11-27 01:30|| 2010-11-27 01:30|| Front Page Top

#2 i don't think anybody with any sense at all really believes Julian Assange is a rapist. It is pretty obvious he has been set up. This is how silencing enemies happens in the West. We don't shoot journalists like the Russians. We leave their hearts beating so that we can pretend we are better than a dictatorship.

Everything else they find ways to take: sue them in the courts for all their money, make up false allegations they spend their lives fighting etc...

it's far more effective.

Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 02:11|| 2010-11-27 02:11|| Front Page Top

#3 The AES Key will be released sunday.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-11-27 07:56|| 2010-11-27 07:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Assange is under investigation, but you, of course, know better.

Posted by Frank G 2010-11-27 10:13|| 2010-11-27 10:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Assange is under investigation by the Swedes, who are not exactly known as tools of western powers. I say its credible that he did sexually assault the female in question. Assange is an egotistical anti-western tool. You might try taking you liberal blinders off and see that he is destroying wikileaks for his own ego.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-11-27 12:39|| 2010-11-27 12:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Oddly enuf, I find myself in agreement with Anon<1>... one look at Julie's pic ought to convince you a) he ain't into females and b) even if he were, he's too much of a wimp to carry off a rape.

Posted by Percy Elmitle7662 2010-11-27 14:00|| 2010-11-27 14:00|| Front Page Top

#7 I agree with Old Spook-- the charges are credible and speculation of his tendencies made in haste in pointless. Rape produces bruising, DNA and other evidentiary trails. Assange will be more than likely exonerated if he is not guilty. --but if he is guilty let's just say little weasels of his type could try to go on a tear. Have you honestly ever even looked at some of the little scum on many pron sights? They don't have to be bruisers to be bruisers.

Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 14:35|| 2010-11-27 14:35|| Front Page Top

#8 Assange's son made a comment in the Australian press that, knowing his father's history with women, these rape charges came as no surprise.

Posted by Grunter 2010-11-27 16:15|| 2010-11-27 16:15|| Front Page Top

#9 many comments here just prove what i said

if you don't like someone's politics, or what they do, then people's first instinct is to rubbish their reputation

people naturally like ad-hominem attacks because they are effective.

Far more exciting to call Julian Assange a rapist than it is to argue the boring old facts of whether wikileaks is a good thing or not.

And after all, it is such a hard allegation to defend against.

and so easy an allegation to make.

all you need is two plants - one woman to spend at least an hour alone with Julian Assange so there are no witnesses and claim he sexually assaulted her.

a second woman to do the same and claim he raped her.

then he has form for 2 complaints against him and must spend eternity defending himself.

anyone that doesn't like wikipedia will call him a rapist

and it will created doubt in the non-aligned or in his supporters that don't know him.

but i think it *highly* unlikely that somebody who essentially is on the run from the secret police of western countries including the CIA, and who is hated internationally for his work would give such an easy open door to his attackers

it seems to me more likely that it is one of the dirty tricks

i've seen this kind of thing all the time to a lesser degree in the media world

PR Flunkeys who don't like the stories coming out in the newspaper will ring the boss and complain with made-up stories to trash the reputation of thorough journos. Then feed stories to compliant journalists with the goal of destroying the first and improving the career standing of the second. End result; no more bad stories for their organisation be it federal, state or local government, government department or large corporation. It's the 2-tiered approach to journalists - encourage the compliant, destroy the independent threat.

Well whatever you think about Wikileaks I would think this would be quite obvious really

Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 17:34|| 2010-11-27 17:34|| Front Page Top

#10 insightful

Posted by Frank G 2010-11-27 17:43|| 2010-11-27 17:43|| Front Page Top

#11 "it seems far more likely that it is one of the dirty tricks"

Rape allegations is not the same as calling someone, anyone a rapist. I can call you are rapist, but it's not the same as pressing charges. A simple sex asault kit will conclude all this speculation, as well as testimony. It seems like overidentification with one outcome or the other until it goes further is fruitless, lacking in sense, shows little compassion for the alleged victims of a heinous crime. Ofcourse, unless you're rooting for Assange against impartiality.

Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 17:57|| 2010-11-27 17:57|| Front Page Top

#12 fire and ice: would that it were so simple

but a woman who claims she has been raped may do so some time after the event as I believe happened in the assange case - in which case no DNA evidence

it's just her word against his. he said she said

so that is why it is so easy sometimes - no witnesses means one person's word against another.

but get two women independently to claim the same thing, no witnesses, no evidence then there is big trouble for Assange

it's so easy to do.

even if he eventually gets found not guilty, the damage is already done - so it's heads we win, tails you lose.

Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 18:53|| 2010-11-27 18:53|| Front Page Top

#13 you do realize we know all that already?

Posted by Frank G 2010-11-27 19:13|| 2010-11-27 19:13|| Front Page Top

#14 Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. And where there is sex withinn the sanctity of marriage, there is less of a chance of being falsely accused of rape, whether it is true or false, whether it happened last night of last month. Wonder outside the boundaries of matrimony and it is a gamble. Assange had no sympathy due him, with his established record of upping a potentially deadly ante. As his accusers have shown, he is not the only to be able to play hardball.

Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 19:28|| 2010-11-27 19:28|| Front Page Top

#15 for me i think it is wrong to play "hardball" by attacking a person rather than the idea or the subject at hand.

i prefer people to argue the points and convince me either way, but silencing the man i think is not the right way.

I, too, think Julian Assange might be gay

Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 19:35|| 2010-11-27 19:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Per Grunter's earlier post, his own son said it would not surprise him if his father was guilty-- so gay theory pretty much out the window. And silencing Assange's accusers is wrong too. Alleged rape victims usually don't take putting their lives and reputation on the line lightly.

Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 19:43|| 2010-11-27 19:43|| Front Page Top

#17 Matter of fact wasn't there noble in Old King Henry the eigth's court who was gay but still sodomized his wife the nights he couldn't get to his male lover?

Posted by Fire and ice 2010-11-27 19:45|| 2010-11-27 19:45|| Front Page Top

#18 anon1 - you have absolutely no evidence other than your ~~overly verbose~~ opinion. I'm convinced. Let it go

Posted by Frank G 2010-11-27 19:53|| 2010-11-27 19:53|| Front Page Top

#19

i don't think anybody with any sense at all really believes Julian Assange is a rapist.

Why? He's clearly the type to get off on the power trip; it's the same game he's playing with his little treason website.

Maybe we'll get lucky and the little MF'er will be shanked by one of his beloved Muslim barbarians.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2010-11-27 22:59|| 2010-11-27 22:59|| Front Page Top

#20 you are right, Frank G - i have no evidence at all nor do i know the inner workings of the rape case against Julian Assange

but I know how media works and how whistleblowers are silenced, and I recognise some tactics when I see them elsewhere

so call it an educated guess

that's all we are able to do: make educated guesses from our experience and the news stories we read. I think it unlikely for the reasons I have stated.

I respect those who argue the facts of why they think Wikileaks is treasonous/ dangerous to national security etc.... logic and reason is the way to better governance always

but think what you like about julian assange, I will say I think on balance wikileaks has been more a force for good than ill in our world.

they have revealed information on other topics not just the Iraq war. They did a lot of good work exposing corruption in Kenya that made a big difference in that country.

They have just voted in a new constitution largely as a response to their disgust at the entrenched corruption exposed in their polity and police force.

Posted by anon1 2010-11-27 23:58|| 2010-11-27 23:58|| Front Page Top

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