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2010-10-25 Olde Tyme Religion
Israel slams 'political attacks' by Catholic bishops
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Posted by Throns Ebbeque9685 2010-10-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 They've been sold the line, that just get rid of Israel, and everything will go back to normal and Lebanon will be able to go back to being a free society.

Except it's now a part of Syria, which never had a history of being a free society since way before the founding of the modern state of Israel. The states in the area have been slowly bleeding away their Christian population since well before the founding of the State of Israel. Middle Eastern Christians have been emigrating to the United States since the time when it was the Ottoman Empire and they were moving to the English Colonies in America.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-10-25 11:01||   2010-10-25 11:01|| Front Page Top

#2 That's the old view. The Catholics don't speak publicly about supercession (I think that's the term, but I'm not up on the latest Catholic theological philosophy) anymore.

I think the term you're looking for is "replacement theology," and I am under the impression that it's not only not the current position of the Church, but that the current Pope is not enamored of the idea.

But... he's very advanced in years, and those who disagree with him appear to be trying to take advantage of that fact. "Quick! Let's rush this through before anyone notices what we're doing!"
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-10-25 11:08||   2010-10-25 11:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Upon further rumination, I'm more angry.

The College of Cardinals and their ilk, by protecting such child-raping crossdressing commies as Bernard Law, has wrecked the church in the United States. Trying to subordinate it to Damascus, which this document effectively does, would be the straw that broke the camel's back.

They're going to win another great victory against their infirm pope and wake up the next morning and find out another great schism has begun.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-10-25 12:40||   2010-10-25 12:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Finally: I _don't care_ whether the founding of Israel in 1948 was just, or biblically ordained, or not. It could have been unjust. And STILL, that would not make the 62 or so years against the civilian populace _in_ Israel, and against the Sephardic Jews outside Israel who were more or less forced to abandon their homes and move to Israel BY THE ARABS, and the continuation of those efforts to the present day, just.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-10-25 12:46||   2010-10-25 12:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Damnit.

And STILL, that would not make the 62 or so years against the civilian populace _in_ Israel,

Should read "And STILL, that would not make the 62 years or so of war against the civilian populace _in_ Israel"

Hopefully the reader can get the point.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-10-25 12:48||   2010-10-25 12:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Pay no attention to the Bishops, guys. Nobody else does.
Posted by mojo  2010-10-25 13:48||   2010-10-25 13:48|| Front Page Top

#7 You need to note the composition of this bunch. Not a single "orthodox" Archbishop or Cardinal was invited. Vatican "State" department stacked the deck.

For example, the Greek Melkite Church is about 1.3 million, and is Byzantine Rite, Melkite tradition became fused with the Arabic language and culture during the Mohammdean expansions.

The Melkites are less than 0.1% of all Roman Catholic communion world wide - so naturally AFP and anti-Israelis hand this doofus a megaphone for AFP to publish in its pro-Arab anti-Israel screed. His statement is theologically back in the 1700's and theologically dead wrong on "extinguishing" God's promises to Jews.

FYI the word is "Supercessionism", and it means that Jesus being around as Messiah canceled the original covenant and all promises attached to it. Vatican II and subsequent official Roman Catholic policy reject this view. Funny thing is this stupid son-of-a-bitch Archbishop is from Newton Mass, not Syria nor Lebanon.

One other quote caught my eye: blamed Israel for the emigration of Christians... ORLY? The Jihadis and violent Mohammedans with their gunplay, terrorism and worship of bloodshed didn't have anything at all to do with it? Really?

I suggest this is something where biased reports may not be all that reliable.

This is merely another collection of rag-heads Arabs in Church clothing exposing their hatefulness towards Jews and Israel.

It would be wise to recall the words of St. John Chrysostom:

"The floors of hell are paved with the skulls of Bishops"

(possibly St Athanasius for you picky types)
Posted by OldSpook 2010-10-25 21:17||   2010-10-25 21:17|| Front Page Top

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