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2010-10-20 Europe

German state moves toward official recognition of Islam

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Posted by Fred 2010-10-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 DITIB is not a 'German Muslim Organization.'
It is a 'branch of the Presidency of Religious Affairs in Ankara.'

DITIB Imams are payed employees of the Turkish state. DITIB Mosque sermons are written by the Turkish government, a friend of Hamas and Iran, and an enemy of Israel.

Posted by Omaing White7048 2010-10-20 07:10|| 2010-10-20 07:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Thought Angela Merkel said multiculturalism is an "utter failure" in Germany; meaning islam is causing much trouble for Germany.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-10-20 08:44|| 2010-10-20 08:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Woah, you mean to tell me Germany isn't fully aware of what it's doing? When have they ever done that? besides the entire 20th century...

Posted by why am I not surprised? 2010-10-20 10:13|| 2010-10-20 10:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Merkel's statement re multiculturalism was a clumsy attempt at triangulation. Her shady maneuvers that resulted in Mr Sarrazin's firing have created an electoral backlash that she had not expected.

Next March there are important regional elections. Her coalition will, in all likelihood suffer a devastating defeat which she won't survive politically.

Here's a source re what probably are her real political views:

A controversial book by former German Central Bank board member Thilo Sarrazin claiming that Muslims were undermining German society thrust the subject into the spotlight last month.

The German government has distanced itself from Wilders and the invitation by Stadtkewitz to invite him to Berlin.

"It is not our style to utterly condemn any religion," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said through her spokesman Steffen Seibert in Berlin.

Merkel had previously told the committee on European affairs of the Bundestag parliament that she regretted the formation of a minority Dutch coalition government which depends on Wilders' party to win key votes.

Posted by Omaing White7048 2010-10-20 11:38|| 2010-10-20 11:38|| Front Page Top

#5 she regretted the formation of a minority Dutch coalition government which depends on Wilders' party to win key votes.

Whenever that happens the government is not strong enough to govern effectively and constrained by prior alliances in terms of bargaining with those parties not in the governing coalition, the main weakness of the parliamentary system.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-20 15:10|| 2010-10-20 15:10|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree that this is indeed a weakness of parliamentary democracy.

Merkel however specifically criticized Wilders' participation, not the minority status of the newly formed government.

She would not have disapproved of a leftist coalition or a minority government supported by a leftist party.

This was a rude and unusual interference in the internal democratic process of an allied nation. More so given the general difficulty forming a stable government after the Dutch election.

Posted by Omaing White7048 2010-10-20 16:22|| 2010-10-20 16:22|| Front Page Top

#7 "she regretted the formation of a minority Dutch coalition government which depends on Wilders' party to win key votes"

And how exactly is the election of the government of Holland the business of Germans, Angela?

Dreaming if the ~~glory~~ days when Germany ruled that country, too?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-10-20 17:40|| 2010-10-20 17:40|| Front Page Top

#8 DAILY TIMES.PK > [German Federal Crime Office = BKA] GERMANY HAS [more than] 1000 TERRORISTS, domestically in training + waiting to strike.

ARTIC > BKA anticipates a RISE IN [Islam-led?]DOMESTIC MILITANCY AS IN TANDEM WID AN INCREASE IN XENOPHOBIA???

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > MUSHARAFF: US COULD HAVE AVOIDED [curr Regional, Worldwide] BIN LADEN HUNT, iff only it had given formal diplomatic recognition to the former Taliban-controlled Govt. in AGHANISTAN.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-10-20 20:53|| 2010-10-20 20:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Back on topic, in Germany official recognition of Islam would require a special surtax on registered Muslims to pay for building maintenance and salaries for religious officials, just like the Catholics, Lutherans, and Jews now get. When we lived there Mr. Wife had to unregister us, after the company's international personnel person registered us as part of the transfer paperwork. Not only is Mr. Wife not Jewish, but we take the American approach that our religious beliefs are no business of the government. Nor was the 10% income surtax something we were willing to pay, considering we didn't belong to a local congregation.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-20 22:38|| 2010-10-20 22:38|| Front Page Top

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