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2010-02-07 Home Front: WoT

US government doesn't know how to handle Islamists

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Posted by ryuge 2010-02-07 07:10|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 You have a field commander over ruled for making obvious what any middle grade officer and NCO knew for years of females exploiting pregnancy to avoid hard and hazardous duty. Given that for thousands of years, soldiers who used a self inflicted wound to achieve the same avoidance have faced severe punishment or death.

You have the PC attitude demonstrated in dealing with Muslims who have clearly shown behaviors that pose a threat.

Now they want to change DADT. The PC attitude that corrupts the senior officer corps will insure that acts of adultery, sexual harassment, and fraternization that get straights punished and kicked out will get gays a 'look the other way' treatment as well. We're about to destroy small unit integrity. Anyone who was in the Army during the end of the Vietnam era and just afterward, knows the destructive and corrosive effect of the loss of small unit integrity. It took years to rebuild.

And the common thread is the political corruption of the senior officer corps to be handmaidens to PC whims rather than have the integrity to resign or retire to acts one knows will undermine good order and discipline.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-02-07 09:51|| 2010-02-07 09:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Chum is always a good way to dispose of Islamists.

Posted by 3dc 2010-02-07 15:47|| 2010-02-07 15:47|| Front Page Top

#3 How to handle Islamists: Well know from the leader of the enemy that Islam respects the strong horse, so perhaps we should not act weak at every opportunity hoping to ingratiate ourselves.

We should also make it clear that since people keep telling us that Jihadists are not acting in the name of Islam that we will not treat them with the respect due of true Muslims and stop coddling their every need.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-02-07 17:35|| 2010-02-07 17:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Compare wid DAILY TIMES.PK > HILLARY: AL QAEDA THREAT TO US GRAVER THAN NUCLEAR IRAN. AQ = symbolic of NON-TRADITIONAL ORGANZ STATE OR GROUP TERROR NETWORKS.

* NOT-AN-INTERNATIONALLY-RECOGNIZED-SOVEREIGN-COUNTRY/POLITY
* Dozens, 00's, to FEW 000's of armed Militants, $$$ Suppors per Group.
* NUKE, WMD-ARMED, OR HAS RELIABLE ACCESS TO SAME VIA OTHER GROUPS, TO INCLUD ADVANCED MILSYS = C4ISR, etc.

IOW, THEIR MULTIPLE WIVES, CHILDREN, LOW-TECH TENTS + CAMELS, ETC. ARE PARKED OUTSIDE THEIR SPACE/HI-TECHY, AIR-CONDITIONED, "READY" NUCLEAR MISSLE STATIONS OR COMBAT TRAILERS???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-02-07 20:48|| 2010-02-07 20:48|| Front Page Top

#5 As for MAJOR HASAN, to paraphrase various NETTERS.POSTERS > IFF THE CIA CAN ALLOW ITS EMPLOYEES-AGENTS TO "MOONLIGHT", WHY NOT THE FBI, ATF, + USDOD, etc Fed Agencies.

E.g. IFF MAFIA = "LEGAL" CRIME = FELONY-PENAL CRIME(S) = MALICES AFORETHOUGHT COMMITTED + PROTECTED WIDIN PUBLIC LAW + BUREACRACY, WHY NOT "LEGAL" TREASON, OR ANYTHING ELSE???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-02-07 20:57|| 2010-02-07 20:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Joe, the CIA 'moonlighting' was a one time deal in the 1990s IIUC.

Posted by lotp 2010-02-07 21:07|| 2010-02-07 21:07|| Front Page Top

#7 excellent points.... how do we keep the senior officer corps from going PC?

Posted by 746 2010-02-07 22:15|| 2010-02-07 22:15|| Front Page Top

#8 pan 49? any ideas.........

Posted by 746 2010-02-07 22:16|| 2010-02-07 22:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Pulling no punches heres my take:

DADT, Pregnant Women, Alcoholics, and Muslims. Did I mention Alcoholics? Re-read that: Alcoholics. That is not a typo. Because if the military has to send you to "rehab" because you can't function you can be gone from your unit for weeks and/or months. Like a mini-vacay or almost like a trimester of being pregnant. One virulent alcoholic in my last and final duty station was away for I think two months between leave and rehabbing it? Not that he was ever really "there" even when he was.

Notice anything? They all want more back than what they give. (Thats not even including any threat they pose to themselves and others) How will Officers hopefully combat the PC problem? Simple. Use tools at their disposal. That being vigilance. Knowing your co-workers. Knowing how they think, act, and not just what they say. Sun Tzu kind of stuff. Counseling/ merit/ performance reviews/ JAG/ OERS, etc. If Officers want to boot somebody guaranteed they can do it if they are tacticians worth their salt. (Many are, many arent)By the same token if someone wants out bad enough, they can find a way out. It just calls for vigilance. There is a reg for everything. Everyone makes mistakes minor and some make major ones. Magnify the mistakes, build a case, get them out of commission. I have a very Machiavellian view of the Military because I served and being female, had to maneuover around some b.s. to survive. BTW, I completed my entire contract and left when it expired because I didn't want to re-up. Alot of stuff going on in the service would make you sit up and take notice. They are breaking Regs all over the place.

Posted by Ulinegum Dark Lord of the Munchkins9474 2010-02-07 23:15|| 2010-02-07 23:15|| Front Page Top

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