Article

2009-12-24 Arabia

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Frank G 2009-12-24 07:42|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 What happened here exactly? Hellfires from drones? Bombs from aircraft? Whose aircraft?

Posted by A_Rovian_Disciple 2009-12-24 08:22|| 2009-12-24 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Posted by Nimrod Finster 2009-12-24 08:27|| 2009-12-24 08:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Yemeni authorities say government warplanes have attacked an al-Qaida leadership meeting in the country's east, killing at least 30 militants.

Officials say Yemen's air force>/b> carried out the raid Thursday in the eastern province of Shabwa. They say the militants were planning attacks on economic installations in Yemen.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-12-24 08:30|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/ 2009-12-24 08:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Oops, better have a cup of coffee.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-12-24 08:31|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/ 2009-12-24 08:31|| Front Page Top

#5 Gee, the drone operator must have missed Gen. Casey's proclamation after the Ft. Hood massacre, that "at least we still have our diversity".

Posted by HammerHead 2009-12-24 08:38|| 2009-12-24 08:38|| Front Page Top

#6 I forgot to engage the cynical button on the key board with the above posting....I did want to add that it would be awfully convenient to eliminate a possible key witness (al-Awlaki) that could expose more of the extensive radical exchanges between Hasan and al-Awlaki under the eyes of investigators. Maybe this was witness tampering at the highest order.

Posted by HammerHead 2009-12-24 08:56|| 2009-12-24 08:56|| Front Page Top

#7 planning attacks on economic installations in Yemen.

Yemen HAS economic installations?

Posted by Glenmore 2009-12-24 10:41|| 2009-12-24 10:41|| Front Page Top

#8 #6 I forgot to engage the cynical button on the key board with the above postingwas witness tampering at the highest order. Posted by: HammerHead

Not "cynical" at all HammerHead, just a connecting of the dots.

Is there ANYONE out there who still believes the FBI's failure to recognize the Hasan threat was due to the oversight of a careless GG-13 intelligence analyst?

I suppose we could interview US-Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Aulaqi.......oh wait, his home was just targeted by a US air strike and he along with a couple dozen of his closest friends were killed?

Hopefully the Secretary of State will send a team to Sanaa to retrieve....boxes, e-mails, computers, personal gifts, etc. Local law enforcement, step out of the way, and no photos please.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-24 11:00|| 2009-12-24 11:00|| Front Page Top

#9 Besoeker...don't think anyone really believes that...the cogitation at DIA and the FBI must have been to be dismissive that a Maj. and Phd could be a threat. That is an intelligence failure, like 9/11...where no one imagined that a few guys with box cutters could pull off the attack of the century rivaling Dec 7th, 1941 in the loss of lives. After 9/11 Mueller sent out an edict that the "FBI must think outside the box." Doesn't seem that it sunk in.

Posted by Hammerhead 2009-12-24 12:01|| 2009-12-24 12:01|| Front Page Top

#10 I must respectfully disagree Hammerhead. The amounts and frequency of USD this fellow was wiring to his middle east pals, along with his communications and lifestyle, would have rung bells up and down the US Intelligence chain of command. This one would have been too sweet, too cut and dried to ignore. For phuechs sake, the bastard held a security clearance! In fact, the monitoring of Hasan was being handled, not by the local FBI office Waco or their representative at Fort Hood's CID office, but by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF). The significance and failures of 9/11 would have dictated that this receive top, high-level intelligence community monitoring and reporting. I'll never believe differently. The piece of human fecal matter was being monitored for his placement and access to AQ, and he blew up on those monitoring him.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-24 12:10|| 2009-12-24 12:10|| Front Page Top

#11 Besoeker- we actually agree and why they took hook, line and sinker that he was doing research is beyond belief.

Posted by Hammerhead 2009-12-24 12:28|| 2009-12-24 12:28|| Front Page Top

#12 FYI: Excerpts of Hasan's emails to al-alwaki: :

Question: "What is your connection with Nidal Hasan, and when did it begin?"

Answer: "Nidal Hasan prayed at my mosque when I was imam at the Dar Al-Hijra mosque."

Q: "When was your first meeting?"

A: "About nine years ago, when I was imam of the Dar Al-Hijra mosque in the capital Washington, a mosque which is one of the biggest Islamic centers in America."

Q: "[There are] reports that there was more than that."

A: "Brother Nidal used to contact me via email last year, until the middle of this year."

Q: "When did the correspondence with Nidal begin?"

A: "I got the first message from Nidal on December 17, 2008."

Q: "Who initiated the correspondence, you or him?"

A: "He initiated the correspondence with me."

Q: "What did the correspondence contain?"

A: "He was asking about killing American soldiers and officers. [He asked] whether this is a religiously legitimate act or not."

Q: "So he asked you that question about a year before the operation was carried out?"

A: "Yes. And I wondered how the American security agencies, who claim to be able to read car license plate numbers from space, everywhere in the world, I wondered how [they did not reveal this]."

Q: "What did Nidal want from you in his messages?"

A: "Naturally, as I told you, the first message was asking for an edict regarding the [possibility] of a Muslim soldier killing his colleagues who serve with him in the American army. In other messages, Nidal was clarifying his position regarding the killing of Israeli civilians. He was in support of this, and in his messages he mentioned the religious justifications for targeting the Jews with missiles. Then there were some messages in which he asked for a way through which he could transfer some funds to us [and by this] participate in charitable activities."

Q: "There are other indications to your connections with Nidal, one of which is that you blessed what he did three days after he did it."

A: "My support to the operation was because the operation that brother Nidal carried out was a courageous one, and I endeavored to explain my position regarding what happened because many Islamic organizations and preachers in the West condemned the operation. So it was necessary for me [to raise] a voice that is [myself] connected to the Muslims in America and the West, while at the same time is independent and explains the truth regarding what Nidal did, especially since the media tried to connect him to me from the very beginning."

Q: "Why did you bless Nidal Hasan's act?"

A: "Because Nidal's target was a military target inside America, and there is no question about this. Then, also, those members of the military [i.e. the victims] were not regular soldiers; rather they were prepared and preparing themselves to go to battle and to kill downtrodden Muslims and to commit crimes in Afghanistan."....

Posted by Hammerhead 2009-12-24 12:56|| 2009-12-24 12:56|| Front Page Top

#13 I guess the obvious question is...was the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) and US Intelligence monitoring this e-mail traffic and exchanges prior to November 4, 2009? If they in fact were, then we have a very, very real problem.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-24 14:12|| 2009-12-24 14:12|| Front Page Top

#14 If they in fact were, then we have a very, very real problem.

And if they weren't?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-12-24 15:11|| 2009-12-24 15:11|| Front Page Top

#15 Well then of course you have yet another intelligence failure.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-24 15:24|| 2009-12-24 15:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Whether they were, or were not, we still have a very very real problem. Lots of carnage coming this way. It might just be the trigger that topples our corrupt government. Necessary, but a hard way to go. Sad that we have been reduced like this.

Posted by Zenobia Elminert1941 2009-12-24 15:40|| 2009-12-24 15:40|| Front Page Top

#17 Whoa there! Yemen has aircraft and pilots that can hit a house/compound in most remote Yemen? At 0430?? Uh-huh. LOL!

The real question is: USAF, USN, CIA or an evil Zionist plot?

Posted by A_Rovian_Disciple 2009-12-24 16:52|| 2009-12-24 16:52|| Front Page Top

#18 For me, I'm glad he's dead and a merry Christmas to all those that suffered from his influence. If this strike was to cover their mistakes in DC we will know when the US strikes stop. This guy deserved to die a long long time ago, I for on see it as an early Christmas present.

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-12-24 18:01|| 2009-12-24 18:01|| Front Page Top

#19 Whoa there! Yemen has aircraft and pilots that can hit a house/compound in most remote Yemen? At 0430?? Uh-huh. LOL!

The real question is: USAF, USN, CIA or an evil Zionist plot?

I dunno about all that. For starters we have a remote location, a time of day when very few civilians would be roaming about, a lot of dead miscreants with no harm to the good guys, i think maybe the RAB is setting up an airwing and were on a TAD/ TDY trip....
just a thought.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2009-12-24 18:52|| 2009-12-24 18:52|| Front Page Top

#20 Would not be the first time we have used Hellfire on an AQ target in Yemen. Nov 4th, 2002: Al-Harethi.

Posted by Skunky Glins**** 2009-12-24 20:00|| 2009-12-24 20:00|| Front Page Top

23:59 trailing wife
23:51 trailing wife
23:37 Pappy
23:30 Pappy
23:28 gorb
23:20 gorb
23:10 gorb
22:47 newc
22:27 Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division
22:15 abu do you love
21:48 ryuge
21:40 phil_b
21:40 Barbara Skolaut
21:39 Barbara Skolaut
21:38 Nero Ulomons5397
21:30 Barbara Skolaut
21:23 Old Patriot
21:22 notascrename
21:16 Old Patriot
21:12 notascrename
21:09 Skunky Glins****
20:49 Zenobia Elminert1941
20:41 Skunky Glins****
20:38 Zenobia Elminert1941