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2009-11-07 Home Front: WoT
Army Shooting Suspect At Military Hospital -- San Antonio
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Posted by tipper 2009-11-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Somebody with size 9.5 brogans could have saved us all a lot of heartache, liberal hand-wringing, court induced drama wrung out for all it is worth by the 24-hr a day media.

Just a single foot placed in his neck for 2-3 minutes would have solved the problem.
Posted by Jame Retief 2009-11-07 00:57||   2009-11-07 00:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Making pets of scorpions is a silly idea.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-11-07 01:53||   2009-11-07 01:53|| Front Page Top

#3 i will admit that i was happier when i thought he was dead.

while I wouldn't condone direct murder once he was neutralized as a threat. perhaps if he had died from neglect.. bleeding out while other cases were processed... that would not have bothered me in the least.
Posted by abu do you love ">abu do you love  2009-11-07 01:56||   2009-11-07 01:56|| Front Page Top

#4 MAybe he should be wrung dry for any info he may have, contacts and such, then meet with a tragic accident, like falling down an elevator shaft.....
Posted by USN, Ret. 2009-11-07 03:33||   2009-11-07 03:33|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm happier he's alive. Doesn't get his raisins yet. We should tattoo a T on one cheek and an M on the other for Traitor and Murderer. Then we should release him into the general population naked and penniless at the main gate to Ft. Hood. Let's see if he can get to a country where he can pray 5 times a day and find a good muzzy matron who will submit to him. Have CNN do a follow up every 5 years.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-11-07 08:41||   2009-11-07 08:41|| Front Page Top

#6 The interesting part is what to do with him. He is in the military, which means that he won't go to the Florence ADX. However, at Fort Hood they have an interesting option.

Typically, he would go to Leavenworth with a death penalty, but the military almost never gets to execute its condemned prisoners.

But, if even one of those homicides can be charged under Texas law, at worst he could go to one of those truly nasty Texas max prisons for life. But more likely they would judiciously strap him to a gurney, and with little delay, pump him full of premium unleaded.

So likely the military will convict him of lesser felonies and give him about four years at Leavenworth, once they auction him off to the winning Texas prosecutor, with the agreement that he is going to hang.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2009-11-07 09:00||   2009-11-07 09:00|| Front Page Top

#7 I just got back from a walk over a grassy knoll. Can anyone explain how one guy with two automatic pistols could kill 12 people and wound 30 some? That's 40+ people he hit. That's a lot of bullets, even if everyone was a hit. And if he had misses, that's more. You'd think he'd have to put in new magazines and that would give people time to get out/hide/hit the deck. I haven't seen anything that explains how one guy did all that mayhem. Links?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-11-07 10:43||   2009-11-07 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Media says the alleged shooter is paralyzed, but it's not clear the paralysis is due to his injuries or medically-induced.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-11-07 10:50||   2009-11-07 10:50|| Front Page Top

#9 I think what Tony Soprano did to his cousin/nephew Christopher would suffice.
Posted by Broadhead6 2009-11-07 11:07||   2009-11-07 11:07|| Front Page Top

#10 Embolisms form and blood clots break off all the time. Inshallah.
Posted by ed 2009-11-07 11:11||   2009-11-07 11:11|| Front Page Top

#11 Nimble, reports say this murderer had 10 minutes before he was taken out. Lots of time to reload. Empty the semi-auto, keep people at bay with the revolver. 700 or so people in an auditorium take a while to exit, esp in a panic. Then there people in attached offices to attack.
Posted by ed 2009-11-07 11:17||   2009-11-07 11:17|| Front Page Top

#12 NS, you said Let's see if he can get to a country where he can pray 5 times a day and find a good muzzy matron who will submit to him.
Sadly, he already is in a country where he has a constitutionally guaranteed right to do that: the USA
Posted by Rambler in Virginia">Rambler in Virginia  2009-11-07 12:42||   2009-11-07 12:42|| Front Page Top

#13 But he couldn't get a muzzy matron to submit to him here.

This speaks to how well we are assimilating Muslims, particularly their women. But as long as the Sauds are exporting their wacko wahabism, fruitcake second and third generation failures like Hasan will be attracted.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-11-07 13:15||   2009-11-07 13:15|| Front Page Top

#14 in answer to NS:
Informed by a friend with DPS that the shooter at Fort Hood was armed with a FN 5.7mm pistol and fired eight magazines of ammo from the weapon before he was wounded (shot four times) by the post/federal police officer. Assuming the magazines were fully loaded, he fired about 160 rounds (20 rounds per magazine). He was also carrying two loaded S&W 40 cal pistols that apparently were not discharged. Given that the primary purpose of the 5.7 is to penetrate body armor, to include ballistic vests - it is used by Special Operators and some Federal Agencies for this purpose - I would not be surprised if the ongoing investigation determines that shooter was trained and armed by a person or persons with a lot more expertise than he. Additionally, my source stated that because the police officer who stopped shooter was shot twice with the 5.7, which was loaded with FMJ rounds, the projectiles penetrated cleanly and didn't cause as much damage as would a hollow point 9mm, 40mm, 45, etc.. She and many of the other wounded appear to have been "fortunate" in that regard.

Posted by Muggsy Glink 2009-11-07 18:18||   2009-11-07 18:18|| Front Page Top

#15 I expect the Pelosi Death Panel to determine the Hasan treatment protocol does not match expected outcome.

Goodbye ventilator.

/sarc
Posted by Skunky Glins**** 2009-11-07 18:49||   2009-11-07 18:49|| Front Page Top

#16 I expect the Pelosi Death Panel to determine the Hasan treatment protocol does not match expected outcome.

I'd sumrise that, along with "I wish his name was Smith", that there's quite a few in government and along its sidelines that hope the shooter doesn't recover.

There'll be a lot of hard questions and 'unwanted' attention on a lot of aspects and people if he survives.
Posted by Pappy 2009-11-07 19:53||   2009-11-07 19:53|| Front Page Top

#17 That's one reason to protect this POS. The other is to keep a good soldier from ruining his/her life by killing him and getting caught.
Posted by lotp 2009-11-07 20:19||   2009-11-07 20:19|| Front Page Top

#18 I would bet money that is the best protected/guarded patient/prisoner at Brooks.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2009-11-07 20:43||   2009-11-07 20:43|| Front Page Top

#19 The irony is that, if this jihadi survives, it'll be due in a large part to combat medicine that was honed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by Pappy 2009-11-07 22:26||   2009-11-07 22:26|| Front Page Top

#20 Perhaps one of his fellow psychiatrists can counsel him on how best to deal with his PTSD -- mass murder being so traumatic for all involved and all.
Posted by trailing wife  2009-11-07 22:44||   2009-11-07 22:44|| Front Page Top

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