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2009-10-29 Home Front: WoT
Detroit mosque leader killed in FBI raids
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Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 Mohammad Abdul Bassir, also known as Franklin D. Roosevelt Williams, 50

So when did this one change his name... roll eyes...
Posted by BigEd 2009-10-29 00:05||   2009-10-29 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Dead FBI Dog is what really got the Feds hot and angry...
Posted by borgboy 2009-10-29 03:53||   2009-10-29 03:53|| Front Page Top

#3 the death of an FBI dog

Man's best friend---fallen in the fight agains Man's worst enemy.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-10-29 05:13||   2009-10-29 05:13|| Front Page Top

#4 It seems that the UK is not the only country in the world to harbour 5th columnists of the worst kind ( home grown Muslim terrorists and imports ) Very little of what is happening in the USA regarding stories like this one, ever gets reported in the UK press.
Posted by Dave UK 2009-10-29 06:17||   2009-10-29 06:17|| Front Page Top

#5 These dispicable vermin have been an oozing boil on the backside of America for decades. It must have been something quite significant which led to an FBI raid and shoot out. My condolences to the dog.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-10-29 09:04||   2009-10-29 09:04|| Front Page Top

#6 The beginning of the article makes it sound like they are an NOI offshoot; apparently they are something much different- and worse.
Posted by Free Radical 2009-10-29 10:07||   2009-10-29 10:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes, Condolences to the dog.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-10-29 10:08||   2009-10-29 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 In January, when members were evicted from a building on Joy Road for non-payment of property taxes, Detroit police confiscated two firearms, about 40 knives and martial arts weapons from Abdullah's apartment, the complaint alleged.

Finally, a good purpose for property taxes.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-29 11:43||   2009-10-29 11:43|| Front Page Top

#9  The Detroit Free Press & News have been doing a decent job covering such significant local news for a long time now. Although they've lost circulation, they are doing better than the national average.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-10-29 12:12||   2009-10-29 12:12|| Front Page Top

#10  The FBI used a chopper to transfer the wounded dog to a nearby veterinary hospital. Since there was no helipad there, the chopper landed on a nearby street, causing many locals to call the police to ask what was going on.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-10-29 12:35||   2009-10-29 12:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Trouble alwayd begins in the Mosque.

I think some people join Islam to cover their crinminal activity or the chance to treat women as submissive slaves!
Posted by Paul2 2009-10-29 12:37||   2009-10-29 12:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Very little of what is happening in the USA regarding stories like this one, ever gets reported in the UK press.

Nor in the US. That's why we read the DS&TP
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-10-29 13:07||   2009-10-29 13:07|| Front Page Top

#13 
Mohammad Abdul Bassir, also known as Franklin D. Roosevelt Williams, 50, of Ojibway Correctional Facility with conspiracy to commit federal crimes, sale or receipt of stolen goods, mail fraud, supplying firearms to felons, possession of weapons by a felon, and altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers.

So, has he tried to follow in the path of his first name sake or his second? Lots of felonies for a nice boy from Detroit.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-10-29 13:16||   2009-10-29 13:16|| Front Page Top

#14 Two arrested were from Canada and in the same newspaper they announced a new ICE federal task force to tackle cross-border crimes. This may be just part of a much bigger problem:

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement unveiled today a 50-member task force comprised of federal, state, local and Canadian agencies designed to combat cross-border crimes.
The Border Enforcement Security Task Force, or BEST, will focus on national security and terrorist threats, human smuggling and trafficking, contraband smuggling, money laundering, bulk cash smuggling, transnational gang activities and other criminal acts. The team, which is the third along the northern border, covers 721 miles. The initiative will be housed in the federal building downtown (Detroit).
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 14:24||   2009-10-29 14:24|| Front Page Top

#15 I'm glad they have been proactive on this lately despite some of the sympathizers in the WH:

RE: CAIR Dinner
Stephen Schwartz, executive director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, a Washington-based think tank, calls Siraj Wahhaj one of the most prominent and strident African-American Islamic preachers in America.
"He's a hatemonger, there's no question about it," Schwartz said. "He's the No. 1 advocate of radical Islamic ideology among African-Americans. His stuff is very appealing to young Muslims who are on a radical path."
Schwartz identified Wahhaj — born in New York as Jeffrey Kearse — as a "leading radical Islamist" in "Black America, Prisons and Radical Islam," a 2008 report by his organization. According to the report, which cited Federal Bureau of Prisons figures, some 175 titles of Wahhaj's literature were found in prison libraries that year.
Schwartz said Wahhaj's writings seek to radicalize Muslims behind bars, particularly African-Americans. Saturday's speech, he said, will likely appeal to Muslims who feel they've been targeted recently by conservatives.
"He'll get up and say American Muslims are under attack, that their civil rights are being denied," Schwartz said. "He'll say that anybody who questions the community of these Muslim groups, that they're agents of the Zionists. He'll say that the criticism of CAIR, and of him, is all racism, the evil work of the Zionists and the media, and he'll say that American should get out of Afghanistan and any involvement in the Muslim world."
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 14:38||   2009-10-29 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 AP has this to add:

Andrew Arena, the head of the FBI office in Detroit, said Thursday that the 11 men charged follow "a very hybrid radical ideology" that mainstream Muslims "would not recognize."

Still at large Thursday are 30-year-old Yassir Ali Khan of Warren and Ontario; 30-year-old Mujahid Carswell of Detroit and Ontario and 33-year-old Mohammad Philistine of Ontario. Authorities say Carswell is armed and dangerous.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-10-29 15:01||   2009-10-29 15:01|| Front Page Top

#17 Hmmm. Just wondering here if anybody has any stats on the ratio between African-American women and African-American men who convert is Islam. I mean, Islam in general doesn't seem like a very appealing ideology for women. Also, as noted by Lumpy, the conversion efforts seem to target people who are behind bars of whom the vast majority are men, not women. So I'm just wondering if some of the African-American men who convert to Islam are lonely. Then the question would be: are they lonely because they are Muslims or are they Muslims because they are lonely?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-10-29 15:18||   2009-10-29 15:18|| Front Page Top

#18 Islam seems to metastasise in environments where there is sexual frustration.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-10-29 16:11||   2009-10-29 16:11|| Front Page Top

#19 Update:
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police took 30-year-old Mujahid Carswell, who was considered armed and dangerous, into custody Thursday. No other details were released.Another man not named in the complaint also was arrested.

The 43-page complaint described Abdullah as an extremist who believed the FBI bombed New York's World Trade Center in 1993 and the Oklahoma City federal building two years later. Two were still at large: 30-year-old Yassir Ali Khan of Warren and Ontario, and 33-year-old Mohammad Philistine of Ontario.

The FBI built its case over two years with the help of confidential sources close to Abdullah who recorded conversations and participated in undercover operations involving the sale of furs, laptop computers, televisions, energy drinks and power tools.

Abdullah received at least 20 percent of any profit and claimed the "Prophet Muhammad said that it is okay to participate in theft; as long as that person prays, they are in a good state," Leone wrote in the affidavit.

Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 17:13||   2009-10-29 17:13|| Front Page Top

#20 This is more extensive than just a few radicals hanging out in the low rent district of Detroit.
Head of the Ummah:
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin was born Hubert Gerold Brown in Baton Rouge, Louisiana in 1943, but is popularly known as H. Rap Brown. When he was paroled in 1976, Al-Amin became Imam of the Atlanta Community Mosque, and in 1983 he established Imam Jamil Al-Amin’s National Community, a coalition of 30 mosques that fell under his guidance.

In 1990, Al-Amin was elected Vice President of the American Muslim Council, which would later become a member organization of Sami Al-Arian’s National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom.

In 1992, Imam Jamil Al-Amin’s National Community became a member of the Bosnia Task Force, an alliance of ten Muslim groups supporting Muslims affected by the Bosnian War. The following year Al-Amin helped organize the Islamic Shura Council of North America, which brought together the Islamic Society of North America, the Islamic Circle of North America, the Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, and Imam Jamil’s National Community.

Along with Philadelphia cop-killer (and former Black Panther) Mumia Abu Jamal, Al-Amin ranks among the most celebrated “political prisoners” championed by the political left.
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 19:31||   2009-10-29 19:31|| Front Page Top

#21 The Curious Case of Jamil Al-Amin :: Daniel Pipes:
Al-Amin's Atlanta mosque...In 1995, two of its members were convicted of illegally shipping more than 900 firearms to groups in Detroit and Philadelphia, and to an Islamic gang linked to Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh of New York. One young convert at Al-Amin's mosque subsequently joined Islamic separatists in Kashmir, where he was killed attacking an Indian army post.
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-10-29 19:49||   2009-10-29 19:49|| Front Page Top

#22 Good work guys.

Bless my LEO. They are still on the job.
Posted by newc">newc  2009-10-29 21:39||   2009-10-29 21:39|| Front Page Top

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