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2009-09-18 Afghanistan
Ambushed Marines' Aid Call 'Rejected'
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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-09-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 so per morrel, the absence of air support was not due to the commanders read of the ROE.

That leaves two things to be further investigated - 1. Why or how was it communicated that air support was close? 2. What about the artillery support?
Posted by liberal hawk 2009-09-18 09:54||   2009-09-18 09:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Last I heard the Marines were calling for smoke. All the guys had was WP and didn't want to hurt any "civilians" in the area. I don't know if this has changed in the last day or two.
Posted by gorb 2009-09-18 10:14||   2009-09-18 10:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Bottom line is this is BS. Our troops should not be placed in this situation. No wonder the tide is turning in public opinion. We are going back to the Vietnam mentality. May LTC. Hackworth rest in peace cause if he was alive, you wouldn't hear the end of this.
Posted by Art 2009-09-18 10:58||   2009-09-18 10:58|| Front Page Top

#4 I have to agree with Art - we're doing all the stupid things we did in Vietnam, and it's all coming from the top.

The one thing that the Marines or SF people could do that would help the situation the most is to take out Karzai and his top 10-20 "advisors". As long as we're unwilling to do that, things are going to deteriorate, regardless of what the US does.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-09-18 16:57|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2009-09-18 16:57|| Front Page Top

#5 The one thing that the Marines or SF people could do that would help the situation the most is to take out Karzai Diem and his top 10-20 "advisors".

Fixed it.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-09-18 17:25||   2009-09-18 17:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Probably the same ROE that we had in I-Corps way back when.

Freaking desk jockeys in Washington and the morons on the Hill never work khaki or camo and don't know which end of a rifle to point, so it doesn't surprise me.

Every time we have a shooting war with a demo president we wind up with this kind of crap.
Posted by James Carville 2009-09-18 20:20||   2009-09-18 20:20|| Front Page Top

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