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2009-07-09 Science & Technology

Global Un-warming Too Late to Save Coral Reefs

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Posted by Bobby 2009-07-09 15:22|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 "This century will see the end of coral reefs for the next tens of thousands of years"

Uh huh. Riiiight...

Posted by Parabellum 2009-07-09 16:05|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/] 2009-07-09 16:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Ohfergawdsake! All we need do, were the problem as described real, is keep seed stock of the various coral species in aquaria until conditions got back to acceptable, then let the coral spawn freely, creating hundreds of millions of free-swimming coral babies to repopulate the earth. The reason survival of the fittest occurs is that many more are born than the environment can support, so the less fit do not survive to reproduce. In the meantime, leave the fishing grounds unfished for a few years and the stock will rebuild itself for exactly the same reason, after which there will be plenty of work and profit for all.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2009-07-09 16:21|| 2009-07-09 16:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Yeah, they've only survived for millions of years in climactic conditions both far colder and far hotter than today. But go ahead, doc, sell your book.

Posted by mojo 2009-07-09 16:42|| 2009-07-09 16:42|| Front Page Top

#4 I reject the idea of ocean acidification. To start with, ocean pH varies radically, depending where you look, when you look, and at what depth. Very easy to fudge.

There is a big chunk of ocean North of Sicily that is highly acidic, sulfuric acid from volcanic activity. Other parts of the ocean are tremendously basic.

Add to this that just one year ago, it was discovered that the oceans were neutralizing 50% more ozone and 12% more methane than previously believed. That is, scientists are still more ignorant about the processes involved than knowledgeable.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-07-09 16:46|| 2009-07-09 16:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Has anybody, you know, actually looked at the coral reefs or is this just speculations made to sell a book (See: Al Gore)

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-07-09 17:00|| 2009-07-09 17:00|| Front Page Top

#6 It must be speculation, 'cause the future hasn't happened yet.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2009-07-09 18:06|| 2009-07-09 18:06|| Front Page Top

#7 OTOH FREEREPUBLIC/TOPIX > SOLAR STORMS SET TO INTENSIFY [Year 2010 to 2012/?????????????]???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-07-09 20:19|| 2009-07-09 20:19|| Front Page Top

#8 And yet 450 million years ago when corals and sponges ruled the earth atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were so high that land animals (not evolved yet) could not survive. Yet:
As a natural consequence, a good deal of attention has been focused on the causes of the Ordovician Ice Age. In fact, it is not easy to see how an ice age could have occurred. Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are believed to have been 8 to 20 times their current values. This ought to have prevented anything approaching an ice age. Sea levels were high through most of the Ordovician. They dropped, dramatically (about 50 m), in connection with the ice age, but it is hard to tell whether this was cause, effect, or both.

Or current climate models are inadequate.

Posted by ed 2009-07-09 21:54|| 2009-07-09 21:54|| Front Page Top

#9 "inadequate" as in "lying propaganda to sell this book/get my tenure" but ~~I play the game the way it's offered~~ I'm a grant-whore?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-07-09 22:01|| 2009-07-09 22:01|| Front Page Top

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